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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Discrimination has nothing to do with an "unchangeable trait" to be valid or invalid. Discrimination is a decision made along categorical lines instead of based on the individual, valid or invalid discrimination is not depended on an "unchangeable trait". From a government standpoint valid or invalid discrimination is based on a compelling government interest in treating members of a group differently.

    Such clubs cannot discriminate based on religion with is not an "unchallengeable trait". Such clubs cannot discriminate against spouses based on the number of children which is not an "unchangeable trait". They cannot discriminate based on their citizenship status which is not an "unchangeable trait".


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    Religion is protected by the Constitution, Homosexuality is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Good thing it is not legal in my state. Whew.
    Not yet, but it will be. Then what are you gonna do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Good thing it is not legal in my state. Whew.

    Actually it is legal in South Carolina, it's just that South Carolina doesn't recognize it. There is nothing "illegal" about a couple getting Civilly Married in another state and returning to South Carolina - they are still married. Just SC doesn't recognize it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Way to dodge the question.
    didnt dodge it at all, way to post another failed lie lol
    let me know when you can address my answer and not continuously fail. Its cute that you think you ever win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Actually it is legal in South Carolina, it's just that South Carolina doesn't recognize it. There is nothing "illegal" about a couple getting Civilly Married in another state and returning to South Carolina - they are still married. Just SC doesn't recognize it.


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    yep they will be factually married and can get federal benefits and where they work has to also give them marriage benefits. Equality is winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Discrimination has nothing to do with an "unchangeable trait" to be valid or invalid. Discrimination is a decision made along categorical lines instead of based on the individual, valid or invalid discrimination is not depended on an "unchangeable trait". From a government standpoint valid or invalid discrimination is based on a compelling government interest in treating members of a group differently.

    Such clubs cannot discriminate based on religion with is not an "unchallengeable trait". Such clubs cannot discriminate against spouses based on the number of children which is not an "unchangeable trait". They cannot discriminate based on their citizenship status which is not an "unchangeable trait".


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    Religion is protected by the Constitution, Homosexuality is not.

    Wow, did you miss the point of the post. Here let me try again, whether a trait is "changeable" or "unchangeable" is irrelevant.

    In this case, military spouse groups receiving command sponsorship only if they have non-discrimination practicies based on race, religion, sex, and sexual orientation, is protected.

    Then of course we have Prop 8 which targeted homosexuals being overturned.

    Then of course we have Romer v. Evans that overturned a Colorado anti-homosexual initiative.



    The idea that homosexuals are protected because, in your opinion, it's not an "unchangeable trait" is incorrect. ALL citizens have an inherent right to equal treatment by the government embodied in Article V (Federal Due Process) and the 14th Amendment (States).



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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Good thing it is not legal in my state. Whew.
    For now, but there is already a case in the lines that challenges the states constitutional ban. We'll see how that turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yep they will be factually married and can get federal benefits and where they work has to also give them marriage benefits. Equality is winning.

    Regarding the bold, that I believe is a stretch if you are talking about private employers. Benefit packages (insurance for example) are defined by State law not Federal law. The Federal government, because of the overturning of DOMA Section 3, will be extending benefits to Federal employees in Same-sex Civil Marriages. That does not mean that State employees will be receiving those benefits nor does it mean that employees of private entities will be receiving those benefits.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Actually it is legal in South Carolina, it's just that South Carolina doesn't recognize it. There is nothing "illegal" about a couple getting Civilly Married in another state and returning to South Carolina - they are still married. Just SC doesn't recognize it.


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    SC doesn't support, condone or recognize, SSM, that is enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    didnt dodge it at all, way to post another failed lie lol
    let me know when you can address my answer and not continuously fail. Its cute that you think you ever win.
    If you didn't dodge, please show me your explanation of how you are not a liberal. Oh wait, it isn't there because you dodged.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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