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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Apologies... just replace "military" with "navy" and my argument will make more sense.

    If I look at what you're saying with cold logic, then yes I agree... no women means no women getting raped. However, men also get raped in the navy and military. The documentary I posted addresses that as well.

    It's more important to address rape culture in our armed forces than it is to simply remove potential victims. Blaming the victim demographic is not the solution. One thing that can be done is remove command review from the unit commanders of rape victims, as those commanders are often the rapists themselves. It should either be subject to higher level review or outside review.
    The Navy has tried everything possible but when the average age of a sailor is 19 and when those sailors go to sea for long periods of time the sailors are going to mix no matter what the penalty is for doing it......I was in the Navy for 21 years and have never heard of a man being raped so I don't perceive that as a problem..

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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If women did noy serve aboard Navy ships there would be know rape problem.
    So the only place navy men rape women is aboard ship? Thinking some teen girls in many ports of call like the Philippines or Okinawa may dispute that. Now exactly how many sailors actually serve on ships? I ask because I do believe you can't claim only on board ships when the bulk serve onshore. you can't be serious in thinking all rapes and unintended pregnancies happen on the high seas... guilt free gay sex perhaps but not all rapes and knock-ups...

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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The Navy has tried everything possible but when the average age of a sailor is 19 and when those sailors go to sea for long periods of time the sailors are going to mix no matter what the penalty is for doing it......I was in the Navy for 21 years and have never heard of a man being raped so I don't perceive that as a problem.
    Okay, putting aside rapes, let's just look at consentual acts. If they are caught, send them home. What's the big deal? It wouldn't be fair to ban all the responsible women over a few bad apples, right?

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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I thought most of you old sailors were gay. .
    Not true. That's why you had to wait for Obama to come along to be able to serve openly.

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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I thought most of you old sailors were gay. Adding women to the mix shouldn't get anyone pregnant unless Marines were involved.
    I think the point of the OP is to prove otherwise. But the numbers aren't there. Only 70% of the pregnancies had military fathers and I'm willing to bet those were Marines and shore leave with other services.

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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So the only place navy men rape women is aboard ship? Thinking some teen girls in many ports of call like the Philippines or Okinawa may dispute that. Now exactly how many sailors actually serve on ships? I ask because I do believe you can't claim only on board ships when the bulk serve onshore. you can't be serious in thinking all rapes and unintended pregnancies happen on the high seas... guilt free gay sex perhaps but not all rapes and knock-ups...
    I don't know how we got on the topic of rape...........I am talking about women serving aboard Navy ships....when a woman gets pregnant aboard ship she has to be transferred ashore many time without a replacement causing her male shipmate to take up the slack because many times there is no replacement for her........a lot of women who want out of the Navy get pregnant because that is their ticket to discharge.
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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Okay, putting aside rapes, let's just look at consentual acts. If they are caught, send them home. What's the big deal? It wouldn't be fair to ban all the responsible women over a few bad apples, right?
    What you don't understand is when a woman gets pregnant she is transferred with out repalcement in many cases.
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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Not true. That's why you had to wait for Obama to come along to be able to serve openly.
    Obama is gay?!!!










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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't know how we got on the topic of rape...........I am talking about women serving aboard Navy ships....when a woman gets pregnant aboard ship she has to be transferred ashore many time without a replacement causing her male shipmate to take up the slack because many times there is no replacement for her........a lot of women who want out of the Navy get pregnant because that is their ticket to discharge.
    How about making that male shipmate who got her pregnant take on her shift too. I bet the little sailor boys would remember their raincoats then.

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    Re: Navy Seeks to Combat Unplanned Pregnancies

    NP's point is that people who join the Navy are stupid people.
    Tough people join the Marines.
    Smart people join the Air Force.
    People who want military benefits join the Army or National Guard.

    But like Navy Pride claims, stupid people join the Navy.


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