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Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

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Dammitboy! said:
Of course you don't need a gun, the nursing home is locked and has a security guard.
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Not quite that old, but I've never needed one.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Not quite that old, but I've never needed one.
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that is how America should work-if you don't need one or feel you need one, then don't buy one

but don't spew 500+ posts insinuating that other people don't need one and thus are paranoid or stupid for owining one
 
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TurtleDude said:
that is how America should work-if you don't need one or feel you need one, then don't buy one

but don't spew 500+ posts insinuating that other people don't need one and thus are paranoid or stupid for owining one
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I merely pointed out I'm not he scared. ;)
 
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Boo Radley said:
I merely pointed out I'm not he scared. ;)
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thousands of times apparently if that is all you said
 
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TurtleDude said:
thousands of times apparently if that is all you said
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You bought up being scared, not me. And you keep going there. :giggling:
 
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Boo Radley said:
You bought up being scared, not me. And you keep going there. :giggling:
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you are the one who claims you merely don't need a gun yet have posted hundreds of comments on guns


sorry I don't believe that is really your only position
 
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TurtleDude said:
you are the one who claims you merely don't need a gun yet have posted hundreds of comments on guns


sorry I don't believe that is really your only position
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Your belief is not required, but it does further demonstrate why you get so much wrong. :congrats:
 
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Boo Radley said:
Your belief is not required, but it does further demonstrate why you get so much wrong. :congrats:
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Nobody believes you on much of anything. I doubt you even served.
 
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Dammitboy! said:
Nobody believes you on much of anything. I doubt you even served.
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I do have. Picture of a plague I got in my albums. I can link a local newspaper article mentioning it. I bet that's as much or more than you can produce.
 
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Dammitboy! said:
Nobody believes you on much of anything. I doubt you even served.
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I don't believe his claims on guns. He is clearly an incrementalist banner

no one posts hundreds of gun posts if their only position is they feel they don't "NEED" a gun
 
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TurtleDude said:
I don't believe his claims on guns. He is clearly an incrementalist banner

no one posts hundreds of gun posts if their only position is they feel they don't "NEED" a gun
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Your reasoning is flawed to say the least.
 
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Boo Radley said:
I do have. Picture of a plague I got in my albums. I can link a local newspaper article mentioning it. I bet that's as much or more than you can produce.
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I can produce pictures on the internet as fast as anybody else. Look here's my house.

mansion.jpg
 
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Dammitboy! said:
I can produce pictures on the internet as fast as anybody else. Look here's my house.

mansion.jpg
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Thats true, which makes your whining kind of silly. But mine identify me. You can even find and call me.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Your reasoning is flawed to say the least.
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yeah so you say-your passive aggressive attacks on gun ownership might have fooled some 500-600 posts ago but not me. I have been dealing with gun haters for decades-you don't have anything I have not seen before.
 
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TurtleDude said:
yeah so you say-your passive aggressive attacks on gun ownership might have fooled some 500-600 posts ago but not me. I have been dealing with gun haters for decades-you don't have anything I have not seen before.
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Dude, I've only entered this fray on. Couple of issues:

1) guns on campus. I do have an issue with that and have argued.

2) your use of flawed stats and poor reasoning.

Now you do keep it going by bouncing all around and avoiding the actual arguments made. I'll spend a thousand posts this way with you if you like, but hat doesn't mean your logic has gotten any better.
 
Boo Radley said:
Dude, I've only entered this fray on. Couple of issues:

1) guns on campus. I do have an issue with that and have argued.
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And most campuses are now "gun free zones"... Now your focus is on "semiautomatic weapons" an "assault weapons", though I'm not sure that you could describe what features makes a weapon an "assault weapon" vs an "hunting weapons".... The closest youve insinuated is that even hunters should use pump action, bolt action rifles, or front-loading muskets.



2) your use of flawed stats and poor reasoning.

Now you do keep it going by bouncing all around and avoiding the actual arguments made. I'll spend a thousand posts this way with you if you like, but hat doesn't mean your logic has gotten any better.
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It's easy when stats you disagree with are "flawed stats with poor reasoning".

The only exception to the rule of more guns less crime is Japan, where murders, is surprisingly low... Yes, there is variations base on cultural values among other factors, but both London and Australia have seen crime rates surge after disarmament of the population.
 
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BmanMcfly said:
And most campuses are now "gun free zones"... Now your focus is on "semiautomatic weapons" an "assault weapons", though I'm not sure that you could describe what features makes a weapon an "assault weapon" vs an "hunting weapons".... The closest youve insinuated is that even hunters should use pump action, bolt action rifles, or front-loading muskets.





It's easy when stats you disagree with are "flawed stats with poor reasoning".

The only exception to the rule of more guns less crime is Japan, where murders, is surprisingly low... Yes, there is variations base on cultural values among other factors, but both London and Australia have seen crime rates surge after disarmament of the population.
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I think I've described the weapons fairly accurately, but even that is besides the point. The point s guns can be regulated. The only debate is where s the line. That will eventually be settled. I personally don't care where it ends at. So when asked if I mind if it includes semi automatics, he answer is I don't.

Now, the flawed stats he used was that guns recent crimes. That study doesn't use hard data, but opinion based data. Your claim above is also flawed, and based on a poor interpretation of he facts.
 
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TurtleDude said:
that is how America should work-if you don't need one or feel you need one, then don't buy one

but don't spew 500+ posts insinuating that other people don't need one and thus are paranoid or stupid for owining one
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His fear of law abiding owners of firearms potentially harming someone is intellectually superior to my supposed fear of non-law abiding thugs harming me or my family. I can comfort my self by carrying the tools needed to prevent that. He wants to comfort himself by preventing me access to those tools. Pretty selfish on the face of it. The life I save with a firearm is worth just as much as the murder victims life or a child lost to drunk driving.
 
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BretJ said:
His fear of law abiding owners of firearms potentially harming someone is intellectually superior to my supposed fear of non-law abiding thugs harming me or my family. I can comfort my self by carrying the tools needed to prevent that. He wants to comfort himself by preventing me access to those tools. Pretty selfish on the face of it. The life I save with a firearm is worth just as much as the murder victims life or a child lost to drunk driving.
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an excellent summary of this issue.
 
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BretJ said:
His fear of law abiding owners of firearms potentially harming someone is intellectually superior to my supposed fear of non-law abiding thugs harming me or my family. I can comfort my self by carrying the tools needed to prevent that. He wants to comfort himself by preventing me access to those tools. Pretty selfish on the face of it. The life I save with a firearm is worth just as much as the murder victims life or a child lost to drunk driving.
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You might have a point if I had said any of that.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Dude, I'm the one who isn't scared at all. :2funny::2funny:
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So then you have no reason to fear the fact that I may have weapons you fear??????
 
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BretJ said:
So then you have no reason to fear the fact that I may have weapons you fear??????
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I don't. I've made no call to ban anything. Does anyone even read what people write?
 
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Boo Radley said:
You might have a point if I had said any of that.
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You are correct. You did not say that directly. You want to place limits on which tools I choose based on what you believe is appropriate.
 
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BretJ said:
You are correct. You did not say that directly. You want to place limits on which tools I choose based on what you believe is appropriate.
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I haven't said hat either, directly nor indirectly.
 
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Boo Radley said:
I don't. I've made no call to ban anything. Does anyone even read what people write?
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So you have no problem with me owning an AR or AK? You have no problems with my CCW and carrying where i see fit? If not I will apologize and admit I misread your intent.
 
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