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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Considering that a lot of "gun enthusiasts" tend to think that anything that doesn't conform to their very strict, limited interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I suspect that many of you will decide he violated the Constitution even if he didn't.

    In any case, if you guys decide to go crazy and become the criminals you guys claim you need weapons to defend yourselves against, it might actually be better for everyone else since all of you would be taken to jail and taken out of the voting pool. Hell, I've got my passport, so I don't mind leaving the country for a bit until things settle down.
    Whose going to take us to jail? Law Enforcement...the Military.... I think you will find we are some of the biggest supporters of gun rights and probably own a good portion of the guns.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    And hear I thought we were going to have an intelligent discussion, but you do the right wing rant of way over the top bull. You project crap to argue against. I never said ban all 'guns'. Never said only banning was the answer, did ask what automatic weapon YOU are talking about though...

    I see many solutions to include hardening up the schools, more mental health screening and help for those who need it.

    But what I also see is new restrictions on at the very least mag cap, sales per person per day, more oversight in private sales in public forums, gun shows.

    You need to calm the hell down, my fine feathered friend...
    Right wing rant? You ain't seen my right wing rant. No such thing here. I agree with most everything you've said in the restrictions department. So. What are we arguing about?
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Whose going to take us to jail? Law Enforcement...the Military.... I think you will find we are some of the biggest supporters of gun rights and probably own a good portion of the guns.
    Dang! I wish I could remember who on DP said this, but paraphrased, the poster said: "When they come to my house to collect my guns, they'll get every one of them . . . ammunition first." Ha!
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    . Tanks vs. guns? I dunno. I'm not saying that should be a reason to limit the Second Amendment, but is the population armed enough to really take on the government anyway? It seems like people who misuse guns would rather turn them on their fellow citizens and not the government.
    Doesn't matter. The size of government firepower has no bearing on our right to own and bear. We don't have a right, merely in order to assist the government in its time of need. It is an individual, not collective, right.

    And yes, people who misuse them (called criminals) are much more likely to assault a fellow citizen than a large government. Pretty much makes sense.
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Now that the Conservatives can dance around a mass murder and declare I
    told you Obama will do some anti-'gun' actions i guess some are taking smug satisfaction.

    I don't seem to recall a great deal of calls to join the peacekeepers, protect the Constitution or some such when BushII worked his magic with executive orders and his signings basically exempting him from the bills he signed.

    But this is now, I'd say lets wait until we see the whites of their eyes before going off half cocked.

    Last term several senators declared much the same thing after a 'special' meeting with the President.

    I think any 'gun-nut' who thinks nothing will be done isn't in this reality, there are Republican politicians calling for restrictions on some sales and some magazines.

    People want something done.

    But we shall see what actually is done.
    Its not the Conservatives whor'e are using the blood of 20 dead Children to push through gun legislation.

    Cons dont do disgusting tasteless classless things like that.

    From Obama's first speech it was politicized and the left keeps on trucking.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Right wing rant? You ain't seen my right wing rant. No such thing here. I agree with most everything you've said in the restrictions department. So. What are we arguing about?
    Was wondering that myself, still wonder what automatic weapons you are talking about. (Yes I have seen several of your right wing rants, as right wing rants go they are pretty good)

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Whose going to take us to jail? Law Enforcement...the Military.... I think you will find we are some of the biggest supporters of gun rights and probably own a good portion of the guns.
    I feel pretty confident that the military will shut down any attempt at a revolution pretty quickly.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    To quote VP Biden, "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

    I suspect that banning alcohol, is also on his EO agenda.
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Its not the Conservatives whor'e are using the blood of 20 dead Children to push through gun legislation.

    Cons dont do disgusting tasteless classless things like that.

    From Obama's first speech it was politicized and the left keeps on trucking.
    Ya need to read better- right wing ranters are dancing around the fact 20 children without all their permanent teeth were gunned down at one time along with a half dozen of their teachers.

    This isn't drug dealers or bangers shooting each other, this was 20 1st graders gunned down.

    No the 'cons' disgusting acts are to call those truly outraged, saddened and wondering if it could happen to their own kids, whores.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Doesn't matter. The size of government firepower has no bearing on our right to own and bear. We don't have a right, merely in order to assist the government in its time of need. It is an individual, not collective, right.

    And yes, people who misuse them (called criminals) are much more likely to assault a fellow citizen than a large government. Pretty much makes sense.
    The point of the SA was not for citizens to defend themselves from other citizens, but to provide a well regulated militia to defend against tyranny. If the argument has instead become that we need guns because other people can't control themselves, then that seems like an invitation for the expansion of more government laws to control people.

    I mean, if you need a gun because someone else might have a gun, then that could really be making a case for limiting the number of guns in society, not increasing them. Yes criminals will gain access to them anyway, but it follows logically that destroying as many guns as possible would limit their supply even to criminals. (I am pro-second amendment but I'm just playing devil's advocate here.)

    We should instead continue the argument that guns are necessary for a healthy democracy to exercise proper control over government when necessary. Saying that you need a gun because of potential home invaders is just inviting nanny government to come up with more controlling solutions.

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