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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do you really take her that seriously? Like I said, this will be settled either b it not passing or the courts. Have some faith in your country.
    There in lies the difference between a liberal thinker and conservatives:
    A conservative trusts his countrymen more than the government. A liberal trusts government more than his countrymen.
    The opposite of hero is not villain, it is "bystander"
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by BretJ View Post
    So in a nutshell, your approach is apathy.
    Look, I am in no way comparing you with Nazis. I would like to point out that the same philosophy you propose led normal, decent Germans to allow the atrocities that occured. As in, unless it affected them directly, it was easy to ignore the reality of what was happening. After all, nobody could do such a thing. It must be partisan hyperbole.
    BTW, those congress critters can do it one way or another if apathetic people allow them to.
    On a non issue that is drive by hyperbole, yes.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Its called a point by point rebuttal, you made a great deal of statements which I felt warranting comment. Had I put all those comments in one TLDR paragraph, you would miss more of my points or not know to what I am referring to.



    Not at all, do I strike you as fearful? I am vigilant, there is a difference, for constant vigilance is the cost of freedom.



    Things having already passed, or having + 55% support when polled certainly falls under "potential threat." It seems you would wait to be under complete tyranny before calling it so.



    You son of a bitch, you know nothing of how many deaths I saw. My family, my neighbors, my brother's friends in high school. I saw more than enough blood during the crack epidemic to know that prohibition of both drugs and firearms exacerbates crime.

    The reason I didn't die, like so many of my family, is because we fled DC for the much safer suburbs of Maryland where we could in fact defend our homes. After such an ignorant and despicable question, which pisses on all those who did die, I have no interest in you or your opinions at all ever again. May posterity forget you were my countrymen you insensitive piece of ****. **** you!
    The point by point is often sloppy. Take the fact that you asked a question answered in your next point.

    You do, however, know a lot of people, the majority, actually styled and didn't die. Your fleeing was likely more overreacting.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, let me give you an example of astray coming from Feinstein, a liberal.

    "Feinstein said. "The purpose is to dry up the supply of these weapons over time.Ē

    in the same press conference Dick Durbin, another liberal said...

    "This isnít an issue of simply Constitution, itís an issue of conscious,Ē

    Letting the cat out of the bag that these liberals are not even considering the constitution in their goals...

    Many "liberals" are supporting this.

    As for fighting 'phantom liberals', I know Joe that you like to try and muddy these extreme elements of the liberal democrat coalition by attempting to downplay who they are, but you yourself as a self proclaimed liberal by your lean, and positions taken are whom I am speaking to generally. So let's not play the silly game of adopting the individuality of a representative only when convenient...
    J, facts are facts, talking **** is not equal to something happening. This is important. I've listen for years to this constant so and so said. Meaningless statements followed my meaningless overreactions. The muddying is done by your side who sees any discussion that doesn't parrot some talking points as being evil in some way.

    People, individuals, make arguments. It is appropriate to address the individual argument and some exaggerated misreading of a "liberal" argument.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by BretJ View Post
    There in lies the difference between a liberal thinker and conservatives:
    A conservative trusts his countrymen more than the government. A liberal trusts government more than his countrymen.
    As we are the government, it's the same thing.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As we are the government, it's the same thing.
    no one really believes that anymore



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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no one really believes that anymore
    Then they throw away the power they have.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then they throw away the power they have.
    They throw nothing away as long as no one questions them and remains apathetic towards keeping them in check. If the founding fathers had thought as you did and trusted the government, they would not have provided for checks and balances. People are part of the checks and balances process but only if they do not become apathetic to defending their rights as you have. It's too easy for you to dismiss valid concern as hyperbole. That is what some in the government hope for. Some will over reach their authority and wait to see if anyone questions them. I see it all the time in local as well as the federal government
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    Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I love that you break this down to ask which and address my comments to each one.

    There are always some trying anything we can think of. By your logic, we must live in constant fear. Ever hear of threat assessment? There needs to be some reasonable possibility of success in order to make one raise the threat level to the panic.

    Btw, seems your weren't killed in DC. How dd at not happen?
    No, not fear, constant VIGILANCE.

    All cops carry guns, but very few of them ever actually use them. They don't carry guns because they fear criminals, they carry them just in case they need them. It's no different... And before you argue semantics, the gun of a police officer is most often use offensively without ever firing a shot, in subduing criminals, but the point remains that it's not carried out of fear.

    Just like a police officer needs a gun, though many times more often than most others, it's important to have the capacity to protect yourself.

    Thats why those that understand the second amendment are "zero compromise" on the subject.

    There are millions of Americans who honestly believe the mantra "you can have my gun, bullets first", understand that and the deep implication of that fact before you push too hard for gun control.

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    Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

    Quote Originally Posted by BretJ View Post
    They throw nothing away as long as no one questions them and remains apathetic towards keeping them in check. If the founding fathers had thought as you did and trusted the government, they would not have provided for checks and balances. People are part of the checks and balances process but only if they do not become apathetic to defending their rights as you have. It's too easy for you to dismiss valid concern as hyperbole. That is what some in the government hope for. Some will over reach their authority and wait to see if anyone questions them. I see it all the time in local as well as the federal government
    Worse, America would still bow to the throne.

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