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    Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not sure nothing from nothing is better odds. But when you add on the likelihood that she may shoot herself or someone else accidentally, well, not sure if its really worth it.
    Ya, I hear that's a problem where guns get angry and get up and shoot their owners.


    Nor is it quite like smokers. There is virtually no chance the law will allow guns to be banned.
    No, it's exactly like what happened to smokers, the smokers tried to appease the liberals until smoking is barred most everywhere.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ya, I hear that's a problem where guns get angry and get up and shoot their owners.
    Not sure why your thought that tactic would work. No one said the gun did.



    No, it's exactly like what happened to smokers, the smokers tried to appease the liberals until smoking is barred most everywhere.
    Not at all. There can be no ban on all guns without a Constitutional Amendment.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Very different situation, but even here, he fires a lot. what is the risk one of those shots could have hit someone not a criminal?
    Perhaps you didn't follow the story, he didn't miss. He didn't hit anyone else, or any store equipment.

    What is the risk he could have shot a bystander? Who knows, all I know is that everyone there was thankful he did what he did.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Very different situation, but even here, he fires a lot. what is the risk one of those shots could have hit someone not a criminal?
    Bullets shoot in a straight line (true enough at those distances), and he made sure that others were out of his way...

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Bullets shoot in a straight line (true enough at those distances), and he made sure that others were out of his way...
    Aims are not always straight, which is how people miss targets. And I'm not sure we can trust either his aim or his ability to know who is out of the way. Like I said, he fired a lot.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But the issue is not one of safety entirely, but whether there can be limitations. I believe that precedence has already been set. The only question is where the line is.
    That's an easy one....

    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    There is your line.
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's an easy one....

    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    There is your line.
    The trouble is the courts have looked at both parts. Precedence tells us two things: 1) limitations can be placed. 2) but there are limitations on how far they can go.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nonsense. Sounds like you learned a new talking point and can't shake the script. You don't have the same job or responsibility as cops. I'm sorry, but you have not effectively answered my point.
    that has nothing to do with what weapons are useful for self defense

    your statist spewings to the contrary

    in reality we civilians need MORE than they do

    1) we don't choose when a confrontation occurs

    2) we don't have back up readily available

    3) we aren't planning to be attacked

    your constant intellectual dishonesty on this is premised by the argument that

    a) honest citizens an be trusted to own 10 round magazines but not 12 round magazines

    b) but you can never make a rational argument why any line drawing is rational

    either people can be trusted to own guns or not



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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that has nothing to do with what weapons are useful for self defense

    your statist spewings to the contraryo

    in reality we civilians need MORE than they do

    1) we don't choose when a confrontation occurs

    2) we don't have back up readily available

    3) we aren't planning to be attacked

    your constant intellectual dishonesty on this is premised by the argument that

    a) honest citizens an be trusted to own 10 round magazines but not 12 round magazines

    b) but you can never make a rational argument why any line drawing is rational

    either people can be trusted to own guns or not
    And you rarely if ever have confrontations requiring deadly force. I always have back up, you should too. And in most cases, I have no obligation to stay. Sorry, you're just off on this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And you rarely if ever have confrontations requiring deadly force. I always have back up, you should too. And in most cases, I have no obligation to stay. Sorry, you're just off on this.
    how many cops do you think do? and when citizens are attacked they can only react

    and your moronic claim that a cop's duty means they can be trusted with more dangerous (LOL) weapons shows how little you know about self defense in a civilian environment.



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