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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I quite disagree, . . .to a degree. You can have a gun for protection, and I think the courts have ruled that so. But the government can restrict, something else the courts have ruled acceptable. We'll see how it plays out.
    Oh I know the government CAN restrict, I just don't think they should in this case is all. Law abiding citizens shouldn't be restricted like the government is doing now with these new rules.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Oh I know the government CAN restrict, I just don't think they should in this case is all. Law abiding citizens shouldn't be restricted like the government is doing now with these new rules.
    It doesn't seem like a major restriction to me. Hunting won't really be effected, and I don't think self defense will either.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't seem like a major restriction to me. Hunting won't really be effected, and I don't think self defense will either.
    It's just one more liberty that the government should not be involved with that it is IMO. I mean with these new restrictions do you really believe that a criminal is going to say to themselves "Gee I better take that extra bullet out because that would be illegal"? Do you believe a criminal is going to follow any of then new rules?

    And if its really isn't going to prevent more shootings or more deaths than why do it? It's more knee jerk reactions from the government again and it's not needed IMO.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Treason? Seriously? I torn between asking you to elaborate, as I know that ought to be good; and asking you to calm down and take pill, as I know that would be good for you.

    No one can make a serious charge of treason against the POTUS... though I am certain there are plenty that are swimming well up the tributaries of the mainstream that have wild hair about what constitutes treason.
    In what universe is screwing with the Bill of Rights not treason?

    In what universe is spending and printing money like water while putting my grandchildren into epic debt not treason?

    You may as well act like Obama can just do whatever he wants without consequence.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's just one more liberty that the government should not be involved with that it is IMO. I mean with these new restrictions do you really believe that a criminal is going to say to themselves "Gee I better take that extra bullet out because that would be illegal"? Do you believe a criminal is going to follow any of then new rules?

    And if its really isn't going to prevent more shootings or more deaths than why do it? It's more knee jerk reactions from the government again and it's not needed IMO.
    Exactly, they're criminals for a reason.

    The only people being hurt here are law abiding citizens. The people who are NOT responsible for gun crime.

    At the end of the day the topic is all moot tho. Guns will still be around and there isn't a damn thing our tyrannical government can do to change that.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's just one more liberty that the government should not be involved with that it is IMO. I mean with these new restrictions do you really believe that a criminal is going to say to themselves "Gee I better take that extra bullet out because that would be illegal"? Do you believe a criminal is going to follow any of then new rules?

    And if its really isn't going to prevent more shootings or more deaths than why do it? It's more knee jerk reactions from the government again and it's not needed IMO.
    Do I believe? No. But the larger problem is we just have too much arsenal floating around. It's all too easy to get. Hell, they don't really even have to work at it. While it won't prevent all deaths, the mere increased difficulty is likely to lower the death total overall. But, feel free to monitor and study, as i think we should have real information guiding our decisions.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do I believe? No. But the larger problem is we just have too much arsenal floating around. It's all too easy to get. Hell, they don't really even have to work at it. While it won't prevent all deaths, the mere increased difficulty is likely to lower the death total overall.
    How is it going to lower the death toll? Is a criminal not going to commit a crime or kill someone if he can't use an "assault weapon? That's even assuming he can't get one which we know they can.

    This is simply a horrible knee jerk reaction by the government and is an unnecessary intrusion IMO.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    How is it going to lower the death toll? Is a criminal not going to commit a crime or kill someone if he can't use an "assault weapon? That's even assuming he can't get one which we know they can.

    This is simply a horrible knee jerk reaction by the government and is an unnecessary intrusion IMO.
    One, it does limit access, even among criminals. They have to work to get it. Right now many can just walk in a buy it. This also helps in making him work to kill that many, upping the odds more will survive.

    And largely, it is just a return, and not a lot new in actual limitations.

    For much of this we are dealing in opinions, which is why I liked the call for research best. We really have no way of knowing how little or how much, and i don't think either side actually wants any information that might not back their unchallenged assertions. i say, lets do the actual research. Lets find out as best we can.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    In what universe is screwing with the Bill of Rights not treason?

    In what universe is spending and printing money like water while putting my grandchildren into epic debt not treason?

    You may as well act like Obama can just do whatever he wants without consequence.
    So you pretty much want to elect a President then impeach him right away.... as those are characteristics of just about every president we have had.... It would be a short-list of Presidents that did not fill that bill: William Henry Harrison, who served for one month, during which he suffered from pneumonia the whole time, might be only one that steers clear.

    (BTW.. Presidents do not really spend money; they just write the checks)

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    So you pretty much want to elect a President then impeach him right away.... as those are characteristics of just about every president we have had.... It would be a short-list of Presidents that did not fill that bill: William Henry Harrison, who served for one month, during which he suffered from pneumonia the whole time, might be only one that steers clear.

    (BTW.. Presidents do not really spend money; they just write the checks)
    Obama should have been impeached long ago..

    Also, presidents don't spend money, congress authorizes spending. It just so happens that progressives in congress want to spend money and are eager to obey every command given to them by Obama.

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