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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If the intent of the second amendment was to protect the right to self defense from government then why limit it to firearms? Why not include canons, swords, axes and other methods of self defense?
    swords and axes aren't illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    swords and axes aren't illegal.
    Right you are.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Dammitboy! View Post
    The majority of privately owned weapons are semi-automatic. What the hell are you jibbering about?
    Are you suggesting a majority of the entire population own semi-automatics? If not, you're missing the point.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    swords and axes aren't illegal.
    The sale of swords with sharpened edges or the ability to be sharpened is restricted. I once looked into getting a sharpened Katana and Washikashi, have meet certain requirements to order them. The displays, normal, ones they sale are not only dull but made of a steel which is intentionally made to chip and fracture if you attempt to sharpen them and which has bubbles and other imperfections intentionally left in, it is required. Not saying it is impossible to sharpen them, just that it is difficult. Better steel in some of the European style swords, but still have to have a dull edge to sale. Occasionally you can find a capture sword from WWII, those are decent and can be sharpened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammitboy! View Post
    The majority of privately owned weapons are semi-automatic. What the hell are you jibbering about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No they aren't...handguns are.
    You'll have to use english to make yourself understood, whatever do you mean? Most rifles, shotguns, and handguns are semi-automatic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Are you suggesting a majority of the entire population own semi-automatics? If not, you're missing the point.
    I didn't "suggest" anything. I stated a fact. Most firearms owned in the United States are semi-automatic, as in the majority of those manufactured and owned.

    I'm guessing you two have no idea what "semi-automatic" means. lol
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    Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not exactly what I said.
    No, what you said was effectively that we live in a democracy as opposed to a democratic republic...

    Just cause you got 51% in votes does not mean that you can vote to remove the rights of the other 49%.

    This country still has a weird love of guns. But there is not the support for semiautomatic weapons that you need to prevent a ban.
    You do know that semiauto only means one bullet fires for each pull of the trigger, right?

    Ya, people have this weird love of freedom and self-determination... And you are claiming there's a majority of people that feel the criminals do not have enough of an advantage and so you want to limit law-abiding citizens to bolt action rifles, revolvers and pump shotguns??

    Leave all the good weapons (reliable, accurate and powerful weapons) in the hands of cops and criminals, right?

    No, I think you convinced me... I vote for more home invasions too.



    And yes, while ugly, the military could, it it so desired, sweep the people fairly easily. We won't get to that, nor is there a need to. But don't pretend you can hold back a modern army with the number of weapons your speaking of.
    You don't understand what guerrilla warfare actually entails do you?? That's why the afghan people are still killing soldiers today, in spite of the modern technological military.

    And not me personally, the fact is though that there are millions out there that are armed to the teeth and training for just that type of situation to begin....

    The point is, the more you restrict guns, the more likely the situation is to get ugly.... And do you really want a rebellion / war / massacre going on in your back yard?? Do you really think that will make you safer?

    There are many people who will not surrender their firearms under any circumstance, there are criminals who woul much prefer knowing that their targets are not armed, and just like historical precedence, once a people is disarmed then comes the culling.

    All I'm saying is; think about what you are ultimately pushing towards, do you REALLY HONESTLY BELIEVE that this is going to be a good thing??

    I just wish I could separate myself from society and let you have your way and see the horrors that would be unleashed if your side gets its way...

    And no, I'm not saying the republicans are good, they just pretend to care about rights of individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No they aren't...handguns are.
    Semi-auto means pull the trigger and one bullet is fired. Full-auto, the army doesn't even really use full-auto except in certain circumstance, it's not accurate enough.

    Almost all weapons are semi-auto...
    Bolt-action rifles, pump shotguns, and front-loading muskets are about the only types of guns that arent semi-auto.

    You just demonstrate your ignorance of weapons by making statements like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammitboy! View Post
    You'll have to use english to make yourself understood, whatever do you mean? Most rifles, shotguns, and handguns are semi-automatic.
    Oh yeah, ur right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammitboy! View Post
    You'll have to use english to make yourself understood, whatever do you mean? Most rifles, shotguns, and handguns are semi-automatic.



    I didn't "suggest" anything. I stated a fact. Most firearms owned in the United States are semi-automatic, as in the majority of those manufactured and owned.

    I'm guessing you two have no idea what "semi-automatic" means. lol
    I'm not sure if your fact is accurate, but I know your comment has no relationship to what I said unless you were making the suggestion I stated. So are you just throwing random **** into the conversation?

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    No, what you said was effectively that we live in a democracy as opposed to a democratic republic...

    Just cause you got 51% in votes does not mean that you can vote to remove the rights of the other 49%.



    You do know that semiauto only means one bullet fires for each pull of the trigger, right?

    Ya, people have this weird love of freedom and self-determination... And you are claiming there's a majority of people that feel the criminals do not have enough of an advantage and so you want to limit law-abiding citizens to bolt action rifles, revolvers and pump shotguns??

    Leave all the good weapons (reliable, accurate and powerful weapons) in the hands of cops and criminals, right?

    No, I think you convinced me... I vote for more home invasions too.





    You don't understand what guerrilla warfare actually entails do you?? That's why the afghan people are still killing soldiers today, in spite of the modern technological military.

    And not me personally, the fact is though that there are millions out there that are armed to the teeth and training for just that type of situation to begin....

    The point is, the more you restrict guns, the more likely the situation is to get ugly.... And do you really want a rebellion / war / massacre going on in your back yard?? Do you really think that will make you safer?

    There are many people who will not surrender their firearms under any circumstance, there are criminals who woul much prefer knowing that their targets are not armed, and just like historical precedence, once a people is disarmed then comes the culling.

    All I'm saying is; think about what you are ultimately pushing towards, do you REALLY HONESTLY BELIEVE that this is going to be a good thing??

    I just wish I could separate myself from society and let you have your way and see the horrors that would be unleashed if your side gets its way...

    And no, I'm not saying the republicans are good, they just pretend to care about rights of individuals.
    I never said wining the election by any numbers means actual rights can be taken away. I don't believe any actual rights are being lost. Regulations and limitations are well within the scope of legal and Constitutional possibilities. The only question is the lone of where you can and can't.

    And yes, I fully understand both of the issues you bring up. And we don't need auto or semi automatic guns, and being armed will not change anything. You better have another plan.

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