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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I would not call 1% a war, at least not a serious one. Nor am I pushing legislation. I've said I don't care, and that your side lacks support. These are not really debatable. I've also said the courts have allowed for restrictions, so some restrictions can take place. The debate comes in at which ones can be restricted, which will largely depend on the rationale delivered to the courts.
    It could very easily be argued that the courts will not allow ANY restriction by executive order but only by legislative action.
    It has also been proven that even legislative restriction is fairly limited as some gun restrictions have been overturned by SCOTUS.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    It could very easily be argued that the courts will not allow ANY restriction by executive order but only by legislative action.
    It has also been proven that even legislative restriction is fairly limited as some gun restrictions have been overturned by SCOTUS.
    Don't disagree. But we have a process in place for this. I'm OK with allowing the process to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't disagree. But we have a process in place for this. I'm OK with allowing the process to work.
    Really? If the process were working properly, we wouldnt have a President trying to pass legislation via executive order, which is the point. Constitutional scholar my ass.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    So Obama just signed an Executive Order telling himself to do his own job. Seriously? You needed to write and sign an EO to tell yourself to appoint a Director to the ATF. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Really? If the process were working properly, we wouldnt have a President trying to pass legislation via executive order, which is the point. Constitutional scholar my ass.
    No. The process is not whether everyone does exactly what you want done, but that when someone does something, there will be review.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I would not call 1% a war, at least not a serious one. Nor am I pushing legislation. I've said I don't care, and that your side lacks support. These are not really debatable. I've also said the courts have allowed for restrictions, so some restrictions can take place. The debate comes in at which ones can be restricted, which will largely depend on the rationale delivered to the courts.
    Umm... Gun sales are at record levels, in some places, it's been reported that people must grab any guns in stock evacuee manufacturers can barely keep up with the demand.

    Don't think for a second that there is a lack of support for firearms.

    1% of gun owners is somewhere between 1-2 million people... You really think the military can sweep that many people??

    At the very least that would be VERY UGLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Really? If the process were working properly, we wouldnt have a President trying to pass legislation via executive order, which is the point. Constitutional scholar my ass.
    I said early on before he was president that he was probably a constitutional lawyer, spending 7 years learning was to circumvent the constitution.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Umm... Gun sales are at record levels, in some places, it's been reported that people must grab any guns in stock evacuee manufacturers can barely keep up with the demand.

    Don't think for a second that there is a lack of support for firearms.

    1% of gun owners is somewhere between 1-2 million people... You really think the military can sweep that many people??

    At the very least that would be VERY UGLY.
    Not exactly what I said. This country still has a weird love of guns. But there is not the support for semiautomatic weapons that you need to prevent a ban.

    And yes, while ugly, the military could, it it so desired, sweep the people fairly easily. We won't get to that, nor is there a need to. But don't pretend you can hold back a modern army with the number of weapons your speaking of.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But there is not the support for semiautomatic weapons that you need to prevent a ban.
    The majority of privately owned weapons are semi-automatic. What the hell are you jibbering about?
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Dammitboy! View Post
    The majority of privately owned weapons are semi-automatic. What the hell are you jibbering about?
    No they aren't...handguns are.

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