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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    What happens on the 1% chance you are wrong?
    It gets throw out in court if not repealed first by legislators. Hardly a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it's hyperbole. And there is no talk of banning all guns. At worse, only an assault weapons ban. So, yes, it is hyperbole. Nothing has happened. Nothing of significance is likely to happen. And like I said, this talk has been the same during my entire 54 years of life. When do you admit that it is silly?
    There it is. "At worst an assault weapons ban". Yeah...how could that POSSIBLY be a cause for concern. After all... Feinstein 'only' listed 120 specific weapons plus criteria for countless other weapons that would make them an "assault weapon". Yep. Thats what makes you "that guy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There it is. "At worst an assault weapons ban". Yeah...how could that POSSIBLY be a cause for concern. After all... Feinstein 'only' listed 120 specific weapons plus criteria for countless other weapons that would make them an "assault weapon". Yep. Thats what makes you "that guy".
    We lived with that ban for a long time. Hardly anything you're going to scare the majority about losing. It just isn't a big deal. Sorry.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The Jefferson quotes were the same. So it wouldn't matter it came from.


    Nnno. The right uses propaganda, persecution of minorities, union busting, gerrymandering, demogary and intimidation of political oppents, and voter disenfranchisment to gain political power. The left still uses the ballot box.

    You're very good at twisting my words. But I can see you know exactly what I meant. So nice try, BmanMcFly but that pig don't fly.
    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ok, are you a troll, or so whole heatedly partisan that you can't or won't even put a half a thought worth of examining your position.

    Using minorities?? You mean like calling people that opposed Obamacare racist?

    You mean union busting like how Obama signed a bailout that paid gm to move union jobs to mexico and china??

    Using voter disenfranchisement on a campaign of "hope and change"??

    Funny though.
    She's no troll. If you disagree with her, I would like to see you debunk her position, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We lived with that ban for a long time. Hardly anything you're going to scare the majority about losing. It just isn't a big deal. Sorry.
    Riiiight. So in the span of a few posts you have gone from There is no ban! to Well...come on...so what if its a ban...its 'just' an assault weapons ban. Never mind the fact that Feinstein announced how many more additions and characteristics she is adding that would make weapons that have pistol grips, detachable magazines, etc an 'assault weapon'. But...there you are. No bans...well...bans...but suck it up...no big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Riiiight. So in the span of a few posts you have gone from There is no ban! to Well...come on...so what if its a ban...its 'just' an assault weapons ban. Never mind the fact that Feinstein announced how many more additions and characteristics she is adding that would make weapons that have pistol grips, detachable magazines, etc an 'assault weapon'. But...there you are. No bans...well...bans...but suck it up...no big deal.
    No, two different issues. The no ban was in the context of defending ourselves. That meaning no universal ban of weapons will happen. This does not mean that there won't be, as there have been and are now, some limitations and regulations. But there will be no outright ban on weapons. Won't happen.

    Like I noted, we've had an assault ban before, and people lived quite well with it. Now, you may argue how much it will or won't help, but whining that all your guns are going to be taken away is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, two different issues. The no ban was in the context of defending ourselves. That meaning no universal ban of weapons will happen. This does not mean that there won't be, as there have been and are now, some limitations and regulations. But there will be no outright ban on weapons. Won't happen.

    Like I noted, we've had an assault ban before, and people lived quite well with it. Now, you may argue how much it will or won't help, but whining that all your guns are going to be taken away is just silly.
    You aiiiiight with gun bans. I'm not. You support an assault on the second amendment. I don't. You pretend its all just an innocent and innocuous ban. I know better. You pooh pooh it and discount it because...at the end of the day...you want it.

    Summary of 2013 legislation

    Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

    Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
    120 specifically-named firearms;
    Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
    Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
    Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
    Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;
    Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and
    Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.
    Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
    Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
    Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;
    Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and
    Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.
    Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
    Background check of owner and any transferee;
    Type and serial number of the firearm;
    Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
    Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
    Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Not at all. Gun free zones are fundamentally a silly idea other than it gives the police/officials some right to confiscate a gun rather just having to observe someone. At the other extreme, its also silly to think the death penalty somehow stops this activity. In fact, you can't stop the activity, all you can do is slow it down... or limit the carnage.
    The recidivism rate is very low among those executed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Obama is really intelligent on this one. In his one comment about what he "may" do, Obama has shifted focus away from the economy and jobs while the right laps this up like Koolaid and gets into a frenzy.

    The country continues to go down the crapper with unemployment and the economy while the right is focused on an imaginary demon.

    At worst, there will be an assault weapons ban PROPOSED, but highly unlikely it will ever pass.
    Agreed. Obama benefits from anything that distracts attention from his dismal performance on the economy.
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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