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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This is just speculation, but I'd guess that is because you don't particularly care if an anti-gun Obama EO was strictly Constitutional or not. Perhaps I'm wrong, but lately I do get that impression.
    You are wrong. Not making kneejerk, emotional reactions about simple tools is not the same thing as not caring. Believing in letting the process set up by our founding fathers run it's course is not the same thing as not caring.

    Pardon me if I am a bit more concerned about the erosion of a fundamental right, though an autocratic method that is going to go over like farts in church.
    You have not even seen an erosion of any rights. It's funny how you only get all emotional about this one right...
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are wrong. Not making kneejerk, emotional reactions about simple tools is not the same thing as not caring. Believing in letting the process set up by our founding fathers run it's course is not the same thing as not caring.



    You have not even seen an erosion of any rights. It's funny how you only get all emotional about this one right...
    Not making kneejerk emotional reactions to a tragedy, is something I've been advocating all along.

    I cannot lay my finger on that article of the Constitution that gives the President, alone by Executive Order, the right to modify or limit part of the Bill of Rights.

    And your last statement is in error. I have seen a lot of erosion of rights, not just the 2A, and that isn't the only thing I am passionate about though I admit it is ONE of my biggest issues yes.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    There are very few things President Obama could do legally with an Executive Order. Not that he has shown any concern for what he is legally allowed to do with an EO thus far. He could ban the importation of any firearms, firearm parts, and ammunition with an EO. He cannot legally make a new law, but I would not put it past him to try as he has done so in the past.

    Look for some sketchy EO that refers to the EPA and ammunition or tries to re-classify firearms into another class of firearm, which would not stand the smell test.
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    The insurmountable division that this issue brings to the table is the very reason that an Executive order may be in the cards here.

    Doubt it. The vast majority of those who would consider abandoning party loyalty in response to such a motion wouldn't find themselves in the Democratic corner to begin with.
    if the goal is new gun legislation, this is a sure sign that whoever decided it was a good idea to float the EO that is never going to happen has not read The Art of War.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    If you think there was a mass outcry for it, just wait until he tries to pull it off. Like the song says, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
    A more vocal minority is still a minority. The tide favors the majority.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    A vocal minority is still a minority.

    Part of our legal and political system is the protection of minorities from having their rights trampled by the majority.


    Also, the American Revolution was still very much a tiny-minority movement at the time of Lexington and Concord. 3% by some scholars estimates.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Part of our legal and political system is the protection of minorities from having their rights trampled by the majority.


    Also, the American Revolution was still very much a tiny-minority movement at the time of Lexington and Concord. 3% by some scholars estimates.
    Who protects the rights of the majority not to be shot by an avalanche of guns they don't want or need?


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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    who protects the rights of the majority not to be shot by an avalanche of guns they don't want or need?
    Nato?


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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Who protects the rights of the majority not to be shot by an avalanche of guns they don't want or need?

    Ultimately, your own personal safety is largely your own responsibility. The Supremes have ruled that the police have no duty to protect you.

    Given that disarming criminals is a pipe dream, this is yet another reason to support the 2A.

    But if you don't like it, I hear Canada is nice this time of year...

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

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