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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Which would do what?
    Agencies would alter the allocation of resources devoted to various activities based on what the executive ordered I s'pose.
    I don't have any special knowledge of federal agencies. So you guess is probably as good as mine.
    What do you think would happen if the PotUS directed federal agencies to adjust their priorities?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Agencies would alter the allocation of resources devoted to various activities based on what the executive ordered I s'pose.
    I don't have any special knowledge of federal agencies. So you guess is probably as good as mine.
    What do you think would happen if the PotUS directed federal agencies to adjust their priorities?
    There isn't anything "adjusted priorities" could do which would do anything toward what it's supposedly to do.
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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    What is the "this" you're referring to? Do you have any details?


    Do you find that the PotUS is in charge of the executive branch of govt?
    If you do see that the PotUS is in charge of the executive branch of govt, do you find that the PotUS has not only the right, but the responsibility to exercise his administration of the executive branch?
    If you find that the PotUS is in charge of the executive branch of govt and that he needs to exercise his control over the executive branch of govt, do you realize that to do so he must make his instructions to the executive branch known?
    If you find that the PotUS is in charge of the executive branch of govt and that he needs to exercise his control over the executive branch of govt and that to do so he must make his instructions to the executive branch known, do you see that executive orders are his instructions to the executive branch of government?

    W/o being able to give instructions to the executive branch, how is the PotUS going to be able to run the executive branch of govt?
    If the president through an executive order bans guns, that will be the "this"

    That is exactly what the preppers are preparing for.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    We have things in the military called "unlawful orders", You see we are required to follow orders from our commanding officers, if our commanding officer says go and torture that kid over there? Not so much.

    If we choose to follow that order, "I was just following orders" is not an acceptable defense in trial.

    We are not just mindless robots, we are expected to think and make decisions on what is right or wrong.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You know how President Obama passed a de facto Amnesty by ordering the Border Patrol to not use it's limited resources tracking down or arresting illegal aliens of a certain age etc?

    Yeah, it's going to be interesting when President Fill-In-The-Blank decides to de facto alter the tax code by ordering the IRS not to use its limited resources tracking down or collecting capital gains taxes.

    The Imperial Presidency is (I agree) a bipartisan problem.

    It was never intended to be like this...I dont know who started it either and I dont care

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If the president through an executive order bans guns, that will be the "this"

    That is exactly what the preppers are preparing for.
    And what form of lunacy leads you to believe that will be the executive order?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    That's quite an assumption, but he has already done things that are illegal, it's just that no one has called him on it. People do illegal things all the time, if there is nobody there to do anything about it they get away with it. And no, he's not a moron. He knows exactly what he is doing. He's playing chess with a public that barely understands checkers. Of course he's not going to push the full monte all at once, it would never pass. It's a matter of doing it in steps. It's the old boiling a frog example. The end intent has already been made clear, it's only a matter of time unless we stand firm on the little pieces.
    No, he's done things that you think are illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    There doesn't have to be if Redress is content to admit Redress is talking out of Redress's ass. But if Redress wants wants Redress's assertion to have any validity, then it's a question Redress needs to answer. This is Redress's burden, not mine.




    Deuce, your batting average for responding to me with gibberish irrelevant to what I said remains at 1.000.
    I restated Redress' point in a much simpler fashion. Apparently you failed again to understand it. Sorry. I'll try and help.

    Here's the point: Any EO that Obama issues will at least be good enough to have some form of defense in court. I.E. it will not be blatantly unconstitutional like "overturn 2nd amendment and ban all guns."

    Whether or not Redress can predict what the EO will be is irrelevant. You are the one being irrelevant here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, because there is nothing wrong with taxing people to the point where they are forced to quit. Nothing at all. Oh and great job ignoring the black market it created.
    You forgot about culture as well. It was the norm to smoke (popular) and no one knew the side effects. Now everyone is encouraging people to quit since it's bad for you.



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    Re: Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns | The Weekly Standar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I restated Redress' point in a much simpler fashion. Apparently you failed again to understand it. Sorry. I'll try and help.
    No, you went into some mouth-drooling about "you guys" and thinking "Obama is a moron," which I never said a thing about.

    And to the extent you "restated" what Redress said (which you didn't, as Redress obviously had something specific in mind -- but apparently we'll never know what, seeing as Redress has fled), you also fail to answer the question. Which, indeed, needs to be answered, because as Simon W. Moon was helpful in illustrating, there's nothing a constitutional EO CAN do.

    So, step up and take a shot at what you think such an EO could be. If not, you're prattling on about nonsense that you hope to be true, not anything of any epistemological worth, and that's the whole point of my question.

    Go for it. Or don't, and babble on to someone else who might care.
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