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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There is absolutely no reason to be sympathetic to this guy. For Gods sake...they managed to PREVENT a moron from at least attempting to kill 7 people (and whoever else may have been around them). Lets count this a win and throw the little sonofabitch into a cell with some new best friends...30-40 years sounds about right. And then lets make his life in prison a reality show so any other little jagoff contemplating such behavior might have real second thoughts about it. Get off the train to namby pamby land. Actions have consequences. This kid should be hit with every possible charge they can make stick.
    So if I go to a bar and yell, "You're lucky I don't beat your ass" I should be charged with conspiracy to commit assault?

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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    Which will be cheaper? Welfare or Federal custody for 30-40 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There is absolutely no reason to be sympathetic to this guy. For Gods sake...they managed to PREVENT a moron from at least attempting to kill 7 people (and whoever else may have been around them). Lets count this a win and throw the little sonofabitch into a cell with some new best friends...30-40 years sounds about right. And then lets make his life in prison a reality show so any other little jagoff contemplating such behavior might have real second thoughts about it. Get off the train to namby pamby land. Actions have consequences. This kid should be hit with every possible charge they can make stick.

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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    If someone were to write fictitious events down, including how to make grenades and blowing people up, they would do it as the basis for a novel. They wouldn't write it down in a personal diary or journal. While it seems harmless, since he wasn't able to carry out his plans, the problem is he had the thought to do it. And obviously he had done research on how to do it. I am glad he was taken into custody NOW instead of AFTER 7 people potentially suffered the consequences.
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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    While clearly a sign of serious mental health issues, it was not a violent crime, or even conspiracy to commit one.
    It was not a conspiracy only because that requires two people communicating together. If this journal was a joint collaboration, or was a means of communicating between 2 accused it is likely to be a lot easier to prosecute.

    As for the charges in question, here is the basic theory for attempted assault. For AL I believe that would be this particular charge.

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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So if I go to a bar and yell, "You're lucky I don't beat your ass" I should be charged with conspiracy to commit assault?
    Not at all. You should be required to buy a round for the house as an idiot penalty. Now, if you walk into the bar with a baseball bat and yell "Luther, I'm going to kick your ass" that's a different story as you have obvious intent and means to harm a specific target.

    This kid had apparently laid out a plan, selected targets and started to assemble the means to carry out his plan. If Tim McVeigh had been stopped at that point we wouldn't have had the Oklahoma City event.

    It's MUCH better to nab the little freak now before someone gets hurt.

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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    It was not a conspiracy only because that requires two people communicating together. If this journal was a joint collaboration, or was a means of communicating between 2 accused it is likely to be a lot easier to prosecute.

    As for the charges in question, here is the basic theory for attempted assault. For AL I believe that would be this particular charge.
    Possibly, yet that required the action of the teacher as well. Simply writing down a "plot" in a priavte journal did not place anyone else in fear. Only the release of that journal or publishing its content, to include the names of the specific targets, could place them in fear.
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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Not at all. You should be required to buy a round for the house as an idiot penalty. Now, if you walk into the bar with a baseball bat and yell "Luther, I'm going to kick your ass" that's a different story as you have obvious intent and means to harm a specific target.

    This kid had apparently laid out a plan, selected targets and started to assemble the means to carry out his plan. If Tim McVeigh had been stopped at that point we wouldn't have had the Oklahoma City event.

    It's MUCH better to nab the little freak now before someone gets hurt.
    No offense, but I could leave the bat and have obvious means to harm you.

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    Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Which will be cheaper? Welfare or Federal custody for 30-40 years?
    I couldn't care less about cheaper. I care that these little assholes get it through their dome that this is not acceptable behavior.

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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

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    No offense, but I could leave the bat and have obvious means to harm you.

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    Re: Plan To Throw Grenades At Six Blacks & 1 Gay Foiled By Police!

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