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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

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    Who was paying for these procedures? Were they not covered by insurance of some sort?
    You asked for supporting evidence, and you got it. Why not just admit that?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who was paying for these procedures? Were they not covered by insurance of some sort?
    Doesn't matter. Long before insurance companies we had snake oil salesmen. Buyer beware has always been the hallmark of the market. Which I think is fine for a lot of things, but not medicine. And I showed you a reason why.

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In those cases you describe I think it safe to say that there is a third party involved between the doctor and the patient. Whenever that happens, costs go up. Of course it will go up even more when the government pays for everyone. Any idea that money will be saved, or quality maintained, is an illusion.
    Reality has proved you wrong. Every nation with universal health coverage has lower costs than the US, which does not have UHC.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You asked for supporting evidence, and you got it. Why not just admit that?
    You got in late and are jumping the gun. Read a few posts back and you'll get it.

    I said prices were higher when third parties were involved and Boo Radley denied it. That's why i asked who was paying for these costs he submitted.

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You got in late and are jumping the gun. Read a few posts back and you'll get it.

    I said prices were higher when third parties were involved and Boo Radley denied it. That's why i asked who was paying for these costs he submitted.
    You got in early and you're still getting it wrong, so getting in late hasn't seemed to hamper me.

    Especially since I showed how reality has disproven your claim that costs go up when the govt (a third party) has a UHC policy.

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    Reality has proved you wrong. Every nation with universal health coverage has lower costs than the US, which does not have UHC.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Doesn't matter. Long before insurance companies we had snake oil salesmen. Buyer beware has always been the hallmark of the market. Which I think is fine for a lot of things, but not medicine. And I showed you a reason why.
    What do you mean it doesn't matter. I made a claim, you denied it. You said you would offer evidence and then try to pass off some silliness that is far from the point.

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What do you mean it doesn't matter. I made a claim, you denied it. You said you would offer evidence and then try to pass off some silliness that is far from the point.
    Again, in every nation where the govt pays the cost of health care, the costs are LOWER than in the US.

    Every nation. Every single one of them
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Please, deflect away from his cocaine use, whatever. Next is that he was never an
    alcoholic. And yes, he started undeclared wars as we have no Declaration of War issued against the government of Iraq.

    So is deflection all you have to support our other abhorrent President who didn't give 2 ****s about the Constitution?
    I just find your critique of him Hypocritical.

    Also Iraq was a puffed up media driven non-issue years ago.

    Its that much more pathetic 4 years after his last day in office.

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Again, in every nation where the govt pays the cost of health care, the costs are
    LOWER than in the US.

    Every nation. Every single one of them
    NO Govt paus the cost of its Health Care.

    Wow....liberals

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    Re: Health care law may mean less hiring in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Again, in every nation where the govt pays the cost of health care, the costs are
    LOWER than in the US.

    Every nation. Every single one of them
    NO Govt pays the cost of its Health Care.

    Wow....liberals

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