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Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

Jetboogieman said:
Just keep digging the hole buddy.

Your dishonesty is wholly on display for all to see.

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It's interesting how you progressives respond with photos and simple one-liners..

You may as well put your hands over your ears and scream "lalaalalalalalalalala" because you progressives obviously live in denial.
 
Good grief, these cases have been pending a log time. Why the Delay, I wonder.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I just find it fascinating.

For a political group of people that generally think liberals, African Americans and people who accept any form of government welfare think of themselves as victims of one thing or another they certainly feel very victimized themselves.

"Oh the government is taking away my freedom to go bankrupt from out of pocket medical costs, I'm being oppressed"

"The Media is persecuting conservatives"

"Hollywood persecutes conservatives"

"they're saying happy holidays, help the Christians are being persecuted"

"They wanna make gay marriage legal, Christians are being persecuted"

The list goes on and on.
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Lord, isn't that true!

As for the going to jail, may all those who hod office and break law get caught, charged, convicted, and join Delay regardless of the party he or she belongs to.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Of course it's good, but it's not like anyone cares. If democrat "voters" actually held their candidates to the same standards as republicans there wouldn't be a democrat party.
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Yeah, and Gingrich would be president. Wait a minute.
 
is there a legitimate source? google news is only showing partisan blogs.
 
The sentence comes after a jury in November convicted DeLay, a Houston-area Republican, on charges of money laundering and conspiracy to commit money laundering for using a political action committee to illegally send corporate donations to Texas House candidates in 2002
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Even a jury of Texans knows a criminal money launderer when they see one.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I just find it fascinating.

For a political group of people that generally think liberals, African Americans and people who accept any form of government welfare think of themselves as victims of one thing or another they certainly feel very victimized themselves.

"Oh the government is taking away my freedom to go bankrupt from out of pocket medical costs, I'm being oppressed"

"The Media is persecuting conservatives"

"Hollywood persecutes conservatives"

"they're saying happy holidays, help the Christians are being persecuted"

"They wanna make gay marriage legal, Christians are being persecuted"

The list goes on and on.
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Well you are after all stealing their money and playing robinhood with it, you do after all attempt to legislate your flippin opinions, you are after all obsessed with what other people do and believe you have the right to legally control others individual choices.

I'm a libertarian and I absolutely despise progressives for the few aforementioned reasons among many..

You want the government to enforce how YOU believe people should live, when I don't want any government intervention in any way shape or form...

To progressives like you it's: "individual bad, government good, collectivism good."
 
Mr.Nick said:
Well you are after all stealing their money and playing robinhood with it, you do after all attempt to legislate your flippin opinions, you are after all obsessed with what other people do and believe you have the right to legally control others individual choices.

I'm a libertarian and I absolutely despise progressives for the few aforementioned reasons among many..

You want the government to enforce how YOU believe people should live, when I don't want any government intervention in any way shape or form...

To progressives like you it's: "individual bad, government good, collectivism good."
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Then your politics isn't libertarianism. It's closer to anarchism. The rest of your rant is just ridiculous Glenn Beck drivel.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I just find it fascinating.

For a political group of people that generally think liberals, African Americans and people who accept any form of government welfare think of themselves as victims of one thing or another they certainly feel very victimized themselves.

"Oh the government is taking away my freedom to go bankrupt from out of pocket medical costs, I'm being oppressed"

"The Media is persecuting conservatives"

"Hollywood persecutes conservatives"

"they're saying happy holidays, help the Christians are being persecuted"

"They wanna make gay marriage legal, Christians are being persecuted"

The list goes on and on.
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Yeah, if it's one thing we know, it's that all generalizations about all conservatives are always fair but it's wrong to do that with liberals. Thanks for playing the race card. I actually hadn't seen it in awhile.
 
head of joaquin said:
You don't seem to understand that breaking Congressional rules isn't necessarily a crime. Rangle broke some rules. Delay broke laws.
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Rangel broke laws, he evaded taxes, not to mention was living in a taxpayer funded home (fraud), not to mention several other "unethical" things that may not have been illegal but certainly unethical.

This is all funny anyways considering that democrats claim people should pay their "fair share."
 
Mr.Nick said:
Well you are after all stealing their money and playing robinhood with it, you do after all attempt to legislate your flippin opinions, you are after all obsessed with what other people do and believe you have the right to legally control others individual choices.."
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Hey look kids, a tea partier pretending sound tax policy is like Delay's illegal money laundering.

That's all tea partiers have left: empty-headed memes like this.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Really?

Then why the hell did the democrats clap when Charlie Rangel was censured?

Rangel Censured by House for Ethics Violations | Fox News

Video: Democrats applaud Rangel after voting to censure him « Hot Air

Wow some standards...

The best is why Rangel was censored, but you probably don't know why.
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They're all corrupt because the system is designed, or I should say the system isn't sophisticated enough to keep up with the various ways one can corrupt itself, anymore. All these libbies pinning you down on a off-hand comment is just silly. They MUST know that both parties try to get away with as much as they can, and like big business fat cats always seem to avoid criminal prosecution. You're right though about one thing; it does at least appear as though republicans are held to a higher standard. Republicans seem to self police themselves, whereas Democrats seem to appluad themselves for their inginuity for not getting caught for so long. Both parties prefer to have their caught and exposed members simply resign and then the problem will go aways, problems is that it seems as though it's the republiucans that are the ones doing the resigning, but folks like Rangle, and Pelosi keep on a truckin. :)

I am at a point now where we need the military to take over, relieve everyone of their duties, hold several consitutitonal convention-referendums, and tighten up the langauge in the constitution holding our representatives to a standard we all hold ourselves to. The list that needs to be addressed is vast and long, but we could put them all down on a ballot, and ask everyone to show up and tell us how they feel. Measures that gain a 60% majority are sent to the states to ratify. Among them would be specific language that severely punishes corruption, allows for a smart and fair process for elections, and campaign spending madness and the list goes on, and on.

Of course that kind of talk is seens as extreme, and I can appreciate where some might think that it is so, however, how can we ever expect the law makers to police themselves when every opportunity they've had to do so is ignored? Hell IMO even the SCOTUS needs term limits, if nothing else than to reflect current philosophical viewpoints consistent with newer understandings. I'm not suggesting a Coup in any real sense, but if someone has a better idea of how to fix our nation and it's political endemic corrupt structure, I'm all ears.


Tim-
 
head of joaquin said:
Hey look kids, a tea partier pretending sound tax policy is like Delay's illegal money laundering.

That's all tea partiers have left: empty-headed memes like this.
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As I said...
 
head of joaquin said:
Hey look kids, a tea partier pretending sound tax policy is like Delay's illegal money laundering.

That's all tea partiers have left: empty-headed memes like this.
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There you go with the "hey look kids" BS again.
 
X Factor said:
Yeah, if it's one thing we know, it's that all generalizations about all conservatives are always fair but it's wrong to do that with liberals. Thanks for playing the race card. I actually hadn't seen it in awhile.
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I knew you were gonna say something about that post.

Where did I play the race card?

I should have ABSOLUTELY clarified that I meant some Conservatives but the problem is lately the loudest conservatives around here do try to make the case that especially African Americans only vote for democrats because they think of themselves and victims and want "government goodies"

It is said X-factor, you can't deny that.

I don't think you're a conservative that thinks that.

And now whenever I say anything about conservatives, or A conservative I will make sure it has a qualifier on it saying that it applies to only some conservatives so it doesn't hurt your feelings...
 
poweRob said:
Then your politics isn't libertarianism. It's closer to anarchism. The rest of your rant is just ridiculous Glenn Beck drivel.
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No it's not.... I believe in the Tenth Amendment.. I believe in allowing states to self legislate, I don't believe in a large federal government that dictates under an umbrella. If I don't agree with one states laws, then I should have the option to move to a state where I agree with the laws, however with the federal government attempting to dictate all states I no longer have that choice or option.

I'm not an anarchist - anarchy is impossible, the closest idea or philosophy to anarchy is communism.
 
Mr.Nick said:
No it's not.... I believe in the Tenth Amendment.. I believe in allowing states to self legislate, I don't believe in a large federal government that dictates under an umbrella. If I don't agree with one states laws, then I should have the option to move to a state where I agree with the laws, however with the federal government attempting to dictate all states I no longer have that choice or option.

I'm not an anarchist - anarchy is impossible, the closest idea or philosophy to anarchy is communism.
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You have that option no matter what this federal government does. You have around 200 states you could choose from in this world if you don't agree with the policies off another. What you are saying is that you don't believe in the United States of America and prefer to have 50 more separate countries on the planet.
 
X Factor said:
As I said...
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You said tax policy passed by democratically elected representives of the greatest democracy on the planet is like illegal money laundering.

Why do you hate America and its system of government so much? Is this a tea party school yard thing?
 
Mr.Nick said:
Yet democrats here in Chicago do exactly what DeLay did all the time and pretend it's business as usual.

It's funny how republicans are held to a higher standard than democrats. Democrats can be blatant criminals and get away with it because their constituents don't care just as long as they get their free money.
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What's funny is how Republican partisans always seem to whine about being "held to a higher standard" every time a Republican gets nabbed for some wrongdoing.

There are crooks in both parties.
Now and again, one of those crooks gets caught.
the getting caught part doesn't happen often enough, but it does happen. When it does, if the culprit is a Republican, we always hear that keening whine about how it's not fair for the poor, poor Republicans, and the silly refrain that Democrats get away with the same thing.

I can't think of any such weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth from the Democrats, but it makes sense that they would do the same thing.

Can anyone think of examples of moaning and wailing from Democrats about being "held to a higher standard?"
 
head of joaquin said:
Hey look kids, a tea partier pretending sound tax policy is like Delay's illegal money laundering.

That's all tea partiers have left: empty-headed memes like this.
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You see you're doing nothing more than proving my point...

You're not holding republicans and democrats to the same standard -- no you're giving clowns like Rangel a pass while demonizing DeLay..

You see, most non-democrats/progressives will scold members of their party when they do wrong, however democrats/progressives will either a) defend the wrongdoing or b) attempt to justify it.
 
X Factor said:
Yeah, if it's one thing we know, it's that all generalizations about all conservatives are always fair but it's wrong to do that with liberals. Thanks for playing the race card. I actually hadn't seen it in awhile.
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Persecution complex.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I just find it fascinating.

For a political group of people that generally think liberals, African Americans and people who accept any form of government welfare think of themselves as victims of one thing or another they certainly feel very victimized themselves.

"Oh the government is taking away my freedom to go bankrupt from out of pocket medical costs, I'm being oppressed"

"The Media is persecuting conservatives"

"Hollywood persecutes conservatives"

"they're saying happy holidays, help the Christians are being persecuted"

"They wanna make gay marriage legal, Christians are being persecuted"

The list goes on and on.
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This is complemented by the conservative tendency to preach about "personal responsibility" and dismiss genuine explanations for events/behavior as "excuses," but then turn around and say that conservatives can't get fair treatment because "liberals own the media", that the failures of their political leaders are the fault of "leeches" and so on.
 
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