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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

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    I think both sides have a FEW of those people, but not enough to worry about.

    Agreed.

    I do think that the entire "liberal media" effort is mostly excuse making. It has been a successful effort by republicans that plays well.
    Well, that could be, OR, it could be that people were watching the former President getting hammered for everything from policy, to vacations, and looking at it now all being ignored for this President....
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Agreed.



    Well, that could be, OR, it could be that people were watching the former President getting hammered for everything from policy, to vacations, and looking at it now all being ignored for this President....
    That is a subjective view that assumes ALL circumstances are they same. They are not and really can't be
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That is a subjective view that assumes ALL circumstances are they same. They are not and really can't be
    I never said they were ALL the same. But one can certainly look for example at things like vacations, golf, etc. head to head, and wonder why the difference in coverage.
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I never said they were ALL the same. But one can certainly look for example at things like vacations, golf, etc. head to head, and wonder why the difference in coverage.
    Much different circumstances with the vacations, so they are not head to head. Your side is always ignoring he differences and pretending they re the same.

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Much different circumstances with the vacations, so they are not head to head. Your side is always ignoring he differences and pretending they re the same.
    Ok, what are the differences?
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, what are the differences?
    Things were really going poorly in Iraq. The nation was war weary, and the president was making excuses. He took more vacations than anyone before him, and things like Katrina made him appear disconnected. The country has now largely settled in once running the wars, end dates are largely in sight, and budgetary items don't get the same emotional reaction.

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Things were really going poorly in Iraq.
    And now things are going poorly in Afghanistan, as well as ME policy in shambles.

    The nation was war weary, and the president was making excuses.
    and today I see largely the same in this respect.

    He took more vacations than anyone before him
    Bush's vacations were largely to his home in Texas, which was set up to run things from like Camp David, Obama certainly takes more to other places like the Vinyard, and Hawaii....Costing the taxpayer more money. IF anything, the american people have more to whine about with Obama's vacations than they ever did with Bush's.

    and things like Katrina made him appear disconnected.
    Are you kidding? BP oil spill? Sandy? Both of these were lip service to the people then outta there.

    The country has now largely settled in once running the wars, end dates are largely in sight, and budgetary items don't get the same emotional reaction.
    Yes, because people are sheep. The media during Bush was hammering negative story lines causing that emotional response, today they are covering for pure incompetence.
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And now things are going poorly in Afghanistan, as well as ME policy in shambles.



    and today I see largely the same in this respect.



    Bush's vacations were largely to his home in Texas, which was set up to run things from like Camp David, Obama certainly takes more to other places like the Vinyard, and Hawaii....Costing the taxpayer more money. IF anything, the american people have more to whine about with Obama's vacations than they ever did with Bush's.



    Are you kidding? BP oil spill? Sandy? Both of these were lip service to the people then outta there.



    Yes, because people are sheep. The media during Bush was hammering negative story lines causing that emotional response, today they are covering for pure incompetence.
    Not entirely true. You interpret it that way, but many outside partisan land don't. You guys tried to make such things an issue, but found no takers. The ME has always been problematic, before Bush, but we were not invading on a pretext. Nothing in Afghanistan equals the mess we had in Iraq, and we're not occupying and nation building in those countries over there struggling. So, again, real differences.

    And frankly, Obama handled Sandy real well. Bush and republicans could earn from him. BP doesn't measure up to either in terms of comparison. So again, different.

    You work like many to excuse Bush. He did things that put him in the medias light. His actions and lack of action in stories that warranted more coverage for a lot if reasons created the situation. Don't blame others. Bush needs to ate personal responsibility.

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

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    The only "relevant" question here is guilt of breaking a law, and that is not settled.



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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not entirely true. You interpret it that way, but many outside partisan land don't. You guys tried to make such things an issue, but found no takers. The ME has always been problematic, before Bush, but we were not invading on a pretext. Nothing in Afghanistan equals the mess we had in Iraq, and we're not occupying and nation building in those countries over there struggling. So, again, real differences.

    And frankly, Obama handled Sandy real well. Bush and republicans could earn from him. BP doesn't measure up to either in terms of comparison. So again, different.

    You work like many to excuse Bush. He did things that put him in the medias light. His actions and lack of action in stories that warranted more coverage for a lot if reasons created the situation. Don't blame others. Bush needs to ate personal responsibility.

    Unbelievable....Joe, I have to say my jaw is literally dropping as I read this sophistry....

    Did you really accuse me of partisanship, yet not see that your own answers are purely partisan?

    Did you really try and make this about your hurt feelings over Iraq and say that we aren't nation building under Obama? What in the hell are we even in Afghanistan at this point for then?

    Did you really say that Obama handled Sandy well? Watch this...



    Did you really say that BP didn't measure up in terms of crisis handling?

    Did you really say Bush did things that warranted the media scrutiny, but Obama has not?

    What world do you live in?
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