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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, and Tom Delay was tried in the justice system when you go to jail for committing an act that was made illegal after you comitted it.

    Gotta love that, right?
    This egregious lack of knowledge of the law is just sad. What you are claiming is expressed directly in the constitution as unconstitutional:

    Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3.

    No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

    Now go ahead and bring the proof that all the judges in from the original trial through the follow up appeals agreed on a ruling that was so blatantly unconstitutional.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    My question, or his assertion?
    Your question deserves an answer from him. Not holding my breath though.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    About ****ing time. With regards to justice, Tom sure as hell lived up to his last name.

    Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, once considered among the nation's most powerful and feared lawmakers, was sentenced to three years in prison Monday for a scheme to influence elections that already cost him his job, leadership post and millions of dollars in legal fees. The sentence comes after a jury in November convicted DeLay, a Houston-area Republican, on charges of money laundering and conspiracy to commit money laundering for using a political action committee to illegally send corporate donations to Texas House candidates in 2002. Prosecutors said DeLay will likely be free for months or even years as his appeal makes it through the Texas court system.

    The whole thing is exactly what Dave Chappele exemplified in this bit called "Tron Carter's Law & Order". Two different justice system's indeed.
    Yeah. can I have a big Amen to that. AAAAMMMEEN. Pompus asshole.
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    It was repealed by Reagan in 1987, paving the way for the Rightwing Noise Machine and Fox News.

    F.C.C. VOTES DOWN FAIRNESS DOCTRINE IN A 4-0 DECISION - NYTimes.com
    That's what I thought. It is also opposed by the current president. The "Fairness Doctrine" has about as much chance of becoming law as a snowball has of surviving the summer in Phoenix outside on the sidewalk. Still, it is ranted about by the RW radio hosts as if it were a real threat to their programs.
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Are we really arguing over which party has the most crooks? Really?

    No, I think the argument was about who gets picked on the most because of its crooks. you know, "Hey, sure, that R was a crook, but were he a Democrat, he'd have gotten away with being a crook. "

    Political parties, bah, humbug!
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Agreed. Going after the politicos is a lot like going after Capone. Takes forever to nail the bastards. Now, in a decade or so maybe they'll finally nab Reid.
    The Capone case was a farce. They nailed him for tax evasion. Come on! There was no justice there.

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    an act that was made illegal after you comitted it.
    Are you referring to money laundering?

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    This is a confusing article from OpEdNews.com dated January 3, 2013.


    Go to the OP link and click on the 'View Article ' button.

    It takes you to this article from the Huffington Post dated 1/10/2011

    Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison


    DeLay's money laundering conviction is still on appeal.

    There's no doubt Ol' 'Hot Tub Tom' is as guilty as can be, but he may have found a loophole. Will an appeals judge believe that a check is not funds (money) or that it was an oversight in writing the law in the belief that everyone accepts a check as legitimate funds? Stay tuned.

    ...the crux of DeLay’s argument was that the once powerful ex-lawmaker did not commit money laundering because state law didn’t apply to funds the former congressman was tied to since they were in the form of a check.
    [...]
    Brian Wice, DeLay’s attorney, told the judges that in 2002, the state’s money laundering law did not include checks in its definition of funds. The law was amended in 2005 to include checks.

    DeLay attorneys: Ex-GOP star didn't launder money | Texas Regional News - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News
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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right, progressives think Fox News should be banned.

    Oh really? progressives certainly want to ban Free Speech - anything they don't agree with is promptly labeled "hate speech" - If I was wrong then "hate speech" wouldn't even be a phrase now would it? NO that is something progressives invented.
    Jumping from "progressives invented the term hate speech" to "progressives want to ban everything they disagree with" is moronic.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'll attempt to make it as simple as possible - progressives have several news outlets to watch - conservatives only have ONE and conservatives make up 50% of the populace. One side gets watered down due to competition and the other has NO competition. Since Fox News has no competition and the other outlets do and factoring in the notion that 50% of the nation is conservative or republican Fox News will be rated higher. It's basic statistics. Well, either that or you're confused on how TV ratings work.
    1) Everyone has several news outlets to watch. Most major media stations are slanted towards laziness and poor research skills, not towards one or another political party. They are, in general, somewhat progressive about social issues, and somewhat conservative on fiscal issues. I suspect that some conservatives (and apparently some libertarians) have a hard time recognizing this fact, because they believe that anything that doesn't support their own belief system must be biased against it.

    2) Even given that, Fox has more than enough viewers to seriously outpace not just all of its competitors, but very nearly enough to outpace all of them in the aggregate. If you look up the numbers for January 3rd, for instance (the most recent day I could find), you'll discover that if you add up all of the viewership for CNN, MSNBC and CNBC, you'll get a number roughly equivalent to Fox's number. That's not statistics, its arithmetic, and it blows your specious contention of a progressive controlled media totally out of the water. Unless of course you're confused as to how arithmetic works.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Oh really? then what the hell are you attempting to do now? progressives are a bunch of Nazi's who believe they can ban whatever they don't like or tax the ideas or substances they don't like into oblivion.
    Ah good. More generalizations. Clearly, of course, if some progressives want to ban happy meals, that must mean that all progressives are a bunch of Nazis. Just like because the westborough baptist church thinks god hates gay people, all christians are homophobes. Excellent reasoning all around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Marxism is a social philosophy and socialism is the economic model the philosophy exists under. Both are the same because both ideas are joined at the hip. WOW socioeconomics!
    Much like with the fairness doctrine, you very clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Marxism and socialism are distinct political doctrines with substantively different meanings. I suggest you do some research on the subject before commenting on it. Wow, education!

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    Re: Tom DeLay Sentenced To 3 Years In Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, I think the argument was about who gets picked on the most because of its crooks. you know, "Hey, sure, that R was a crook, but were he a Democrat, he'd have gotten away with being a crook. "

    Political parties, bah, humbug!
    Yes, I see the whinning you rightly pointed out earlier. But wouldn't the real question be not who's picked on, but whether Delay was guilty or not? If he's guilty, stop whinning. Wave bye as he goes to jail.

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