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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    This has nothing to do with what I posted. Try again.
    It was only a matter of time before you generically state, "D controls C".
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    So lack of capital is a problem? Interesting.
    Now you are putting stuff into Goldens mouth that he didn't say.

    And by the way, financing and lack of capital are not the same thing.

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Post war recession during a gold standard era was prone to such turbulence. It's like comparing a sand dune to mt. everest.
    And the recovery much quicker. That can just be ignored? That's convenient.

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    No silly, lack of desire to finance when employment is at risk is a problem. Not to mention a drastic uptick in underwriting standards.
    And why is employment at risk?

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post

    There is NO recovery, there WAS no job growth.
    partisan stuff pared, because i'm not interested in it.

    1.2-monthly-change-OPT.jpg

    what this chart shows is absolute economic destruction and a weak recovery. the weak recovery limps on.

    i don't by any means think that we're out off the woods, as i stated in the OP. it could still go the other way, and i'm not satisfied with the rate of recovery, but we could be doing worse. i hope that we at least continue limping in the right direction.

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    And the recovery much quicker. That can just be ignored? That's convenient.
    Not ignoring anything; that would be your neck of the woods. In the early 20th century, U.S. population, immigration (both legal and illegal), etc... were growing at rates that are not comparable to today's economy. The fact that you even attempted to compare such distinct time periods of the U.S. economy is truly telling.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    And why is employment at risk?
    Companies were protecting their valuations and cash flows. Is there a reason why you are continuously responding with questions (some of which are entirely loaded) rather than engaging in proper dialog?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Not ignoring anything; that would be your neck of the woods. In the early 20th century, U.S. population, immigration (both legal and illegal), etc... were growing at rates that are not comparable to today's economy. The fact that you even attempted to compare such distinct time periods of the U.S. economy is truly telling.
    So the laws of economics change because of a growing population? I'm just saying, you're the one who's trying to ignore any historical lessons from the time.

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Companies were protecting their valuations and cash flows. Is there a reason why you are continuously responding with questions (some of which are entirely loaded) rather than engaging in proper dialog?
    And that happened all of sudden why exactly? One day people just decided all at the same time that their money was at risk?

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    re: Job growth cools slightly, recovery grinds on [W:225]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    So the laws of economics change because of a growing population?
    When did i say that? You have a poor habit of putting words in people's mouths. Population growth must necessarily feed economic growth.

    I'm just saying, you're the one who's trying to ignore any historical lessons from the time.
    It is ridiculous to compare the early 20th century economy to that of our own. It is akin to comparing the U.S. to Greece.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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