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    Re: Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as polluta

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone
    "This isn't a "power grab" its about two different opinions on what a pollutant is and is not, I can understand the argument for stormwater being considered a pollutent because it can alter and change an enviroment if there's simply way too much of it. But its a natural change not like if you dumped a galleon of gasoline into a creek."

    Stormwater is only natural in areas with virtually no human activity or infrastructure. Buildings and pavement disrupt the natural flow of water and the water picks up pollutants from these surfaces. These surfaces also disrupt the natural flow of water into the ground so there is likely to be more water going directly into lakes, rivers and oceans wherever there is a lot of pavement. The process of water seeping into the ground filters out many of the contaminants, so flow from storm water into rivers etc is going to be unnaturally dirty.

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    Re: Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as polluta

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    According to that theory air is a pollutant on a windy day and a hurricane or a tornado would have to be declared illegal and somebody would be fined or imprisoned. God maybe?
    Way to come up with a pointless and completely unrelated point.

    Stormwater can actually be diverted through human actions via damns, drainage systems etc. I can turn your house into a flood zone if I built up all the land around you by ten feet. I can't do that with a hurricane or tornado. I can build up my house to protect myself but I can't build a system that will throw a tornado onto your house instead of mine.

    Since human actions can effect the damage done by this storm water (opening dams and whatnot) they tried to regulate it, and the checks and balances set up in our government worked, and limited their scope of power.

    If what you have been whining about for the last few years were true, it wouldn't matter what this judge ruled. Obama wouldn't have any checks and balances because he doesn't care about the constitution and he's like hitler etc. etc.

    You're misunderstanding the situation, completely exaggerating the implications, and doing so in the most hackish way possible.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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