Stormwater is not in and of itself a pollutant, of course. The problem with runoff water is that it often degrades the environment by contributing to erosion, which is an inevitably when you have impervious manmade surfaces like concrete etc. that wouldn't otherwise be there. Not to mention the fact that runoff water tends to pick up pollutants when it runs over such impervious surfaces.
- Colonel Paul YinglingNobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.
Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.
All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
Also, Most storm water is a pollutant by characterization. The amount of ingrediants that are in it can compose a risk to aquatic life. This is especially true in Industrial and Agricultural areas.
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"There are those who will debate the necessity of wilderness, I will not, either you know it in your bones or you are very very old". Aldo Leopold - Sand County Almanac
By looking at SB's comment here you can clearly see that he doesn't believe that 'runoff' naturally occuring is a problem, but rather that it has to run off of "manmade" surfaces....So, man is the problem.Originally Posted by StillBallin75
I'm not really sure why people take issue with the idea that contaminated water could be considered a pollutant given the wrong circumstances.
As usual, the issue seems to be absolute thinking. Obviously water isn't always a pollutant, even water runoff isn't always a pollutant. However, given the circumstances in this particular area the EPA decided that the runoff was polluting this particular river.
But no. Any time the EPA steps in on something we have to just assume its this big scary power grab omg its 1984 time!
Last edited by Deuce; 01-05-13 at 05:55 PM.
One of you will end up here next!
Fairfax County, Virginia, is massively developed. Anything that drives up the cost there promotes more urban sprawl.