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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....[W:187,319]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    I heard from Uncle Rush that NO ONE pays $500,000,000 for an American TV network with as few viewers as Current TV boasts.


    They are actually buying Al Gore's entre into America's living rooms.

    They are expecting Al Gore to help them gain acceptance here.

    Why?

    Answer that question honestly and then you'll know what the uproar is about.
    They are a media company tapping into a market ...

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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....[W:187,319]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So are you saying a Country should not be concerned about any Foreign entity broadcasting and producing with in its own borders? That they should not have any concern for Propaganda?
    Like BBC and Fox News (largely foreign owned)?

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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....[W:187,319]

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Like BBC and Fox News (largely foreign owned)?
    Did you notice the terminology of "Any"?

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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....

    Seriously? Rush Limbaugh? Talk about a world view...


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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....[W:187,319]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Please show where Joe McCarthy didn't believe in the first amendment.
    McCarthy's whole campaign had the goal of preventing anyone who had ever held communist viewpoints, or ever belonged to certain organizations, from holding government jobs. McCarthy did not focus solely on spys, suspected spys or others committing crimes, he targeted everyone in government who ever held certain views or joined certain organizations. McCarthy and his supporters also successfully destroyed the careers (although not necessarily through legislation) of anyone with such views working in the motion picture business. The goal with the motion picture hearings wasn't to stop spying, it was to stop expressions of opinion in media that they did not approve of. McCarthy was largely successful, but in subsequent years courts and legislatures eliminated most of the laws created during the McCarthy era that called for viewpoint discrimination because they clearly were violations of the first amendment.



    "Another key decision was in the 1957 case Yates v. United States, in which the convictions of fourteen Communists were reversed. In Justice Black's opinion, he wrote of the original "Smith Act" trials: "The testimony of witnesses is comparatively insignificant. Guilt or innocence may turn on what Marx or Engels or someone else wrote or advocated as much as a hundred years or more ago.[...] When the propriety of obnoxious or unfamiliar view about government is in reality made the crucial issue, [...] prejudice makes conviction inevitable except in the rarest circumstances."[96]

    Also in 1957, the Supreme Court ruled on the case of Watkins v. United States, curtailing the power of HUAC to punish uncooperative witnesses by finding them in contempt of Congress. Justice Warren wrote in the decision: "The mere summoning of a witness and compelling him to testify, against his will, about his beliefs, expressions or associations is a measure of governmental interference. And when those forced revelations concern matters that are unorthodox, unpopular, or even hateful to the general public, the reaction in the life of the witness may be disastrous."[97]

    In its 1958 decision in Kent v. Dulles, the Supreme Court halted the State Department from using the authority of its own regulations to refuse or revoke passports based on an applicant's communist beliefs or associations."
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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....[W:187,319]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC
    "So are you saying a Country should not be concerned about any Foreign entity broadcasting and producing with in its own borders? That they should not have any concern for Propaganda?"

    A government with a guarantee of free expression has no business concerning itself with the content of any speech, or who is speaking. (outside of fraud, libel and false advertising) Anyone with confidence that their viewpoint is correct and can be verified with facts has no concern about "propaganda." For the truth to emerge we only need to promote a media environment in which all viewpoints can be expressed and heard. Propaganda is only effective when other viewpoints are suppressed.

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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Seriously? Rush Limbaugh? Talk about a world view...
    What did you find wrong with what Limbaugh said? Or is this just another as hominem?

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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....[W:187,319]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    McCarthy's whole campaign had the goal of preventing anyone who had ever held communist viewpoints, or ever belonged to certain organizations, from holding government jobs.
    High level government jobs, yes, and we can see why.
    McCarthy did not focus solely on spys, suspected spys or others committing crimes, he targeted everyone in government who ever held certain views or joined certain organizations.
    He did not target everyone in government and indeed there were spies who were apparently being deliberately ignored.

    McCarthy and his supporters also successfully destroyed the careers (although not necessarily through legislation) of anyone with such views working in the motion picture business.
    McCarthy was more interested in government than the motion picture industry.

    The goal with the motion picture hearings wasn't to stop spying, it was to stop expressions of opinion in media that they did not approve of.
    We still do that in the cases of Nazism, Fascism, Racism, etc. There are some things, such as slavery, which would be reprehensible if shown in a positive light.

    McCarthy was largely successful, but in subsequent years courts and legislatures eliminated most of the laws created during the McCarthy era that called for viewpoint discrimination because they clearly were violations of the first amendment.
    Agreed, but many of these organizations were secret organizations, if its a matter of freedom of speech why not openly admit to being a Communist, etc.? And of course the McCarthy era was not all McCarthy.

    "Another key decision was in the 1957 case Yates v. United States, in which the convictions of fourteen Communists were reversed. In Justice Black's opinion, he wrote of the original "Smith Act" trials: "The testimony of witnesses is comparatively insignificant. Guilt or innocence may turn on what Marx or Engels or someone else wrote or advocated as much as a hundred years or more ago.[...] When the propriety of obnoxious or unfamiliar view about government is in reality made the crucial issue, [...] prejudice makes conviction inevitable except in the rarest circumstances."[96]
    But of course it wasn't all about Marx or Engles, though we can see his point. In fact the Communists were deliberately killing millions, there were spies in the US Government, and all of that should have been pointed out and brought to public attention.

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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....[W:187,319]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    I heard from Uncle Rush that NO ONE pays $500,000,000 for an American TV network with as few viewers as Current TV boasts.


    They are actually buying Al Gore's entre into America's living rooms.

    They are expecting Al Gore to help them gain acceptance here.

    Why?

    Answer that question honestly and then you'll know what the uproar is about.
    Well they needed ed a station to enter the market and Current TV is a way into it. They are floating on the fact that they can increase name awareness.

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    Re: Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What did you find wrong with what Limbaugh said? Or is this just another as hominem?
    I didnt even read it cuz i know the typical Limbaugh line. Anything that doesnt spout conservative **** "hates America blah blah blah blah"


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