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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes[W: 110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    I just lost my oncologist thanks to good old Obamacare lol. Moved from the State
    Hospital to Sloan Kettering lol
    Cancer ? I'm sincerley sad to hear that. As for Sloan Kettering being better than a State Hospital ? Well thats really dependent on the type of Cancer you have.

    Our cancer treatment from Hospital to Hospital seems to be a more direct and more accurate application of poisons.

    I think most Cancer is more of an issue with your bodies natural immune systems no longer being sufficient enough to deal with abnoral cell growth.

    We have MD Anderson where I live and is arguably one of the best cancer centers in the US.

    As for your good fortune provided by ObamaCare just know that it comes at a price. A HUGE price as millions of Americans struggle with chronic joblessness and poverty and dependemce because of its effect on the private sector.

    But I think we've devolved to a society that's egocentric and hedonistic first and then altruistic and selfess second.

    Am I right ?

    Your good fortune isn't free, someones paying for it one way or another.

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    They just did lol.
    It seems that a Frenchman, dead for over 150 years, is a great deal more insightful than the Obamacrats of today.

    “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville

    Now they actually believe that 'the rich' can pay for their excesses but 'the middle class' will remain untouched. This is a profound ignorance, but one not without historical precedents.

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes[W: 110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Cancer ? I'm sincerley sad to hear that. As for Sloan Kettering being better than a State Hospital ? Well thats really dependent on the type of Cancer you have.

    Our cancer treatment from Hospital to Hospital seems to be a more direct and more accurate application of poisons.

    I think most Cancer is more of an issue with your bodies natural immune systems no longer being sufficient enough to deal with abnoral cell growth.

    We have MD Anderson where I live and is arguably one of the best cancer centers in the US.

    As for your good fortune provided by ObamaCare just know that it comes at a price. A HUGE price as millions of Americans struggle with chronic joblessness and poverty and dependemce because of its effect on the private sector.

    But I think we've devolved to a society that's egocentric and hedonistic first and then altruistic and selfess second.

    Am I right ?

    Your good fortune isn't free, someones paying for it one way or another.
    She went there for the money not because it treats cancer better lol.
    If not for the rich I would probably be dead.

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Why do those of us who are actually Fiscal Conservatives need to tone down our rhetoric? Maybe because it just may be starting to get through to some people, or is it because it causes what little common sense some of you may actually still have to get a little bent out of shape?



    Why should the Top be paying MORE when the Bottom continues to do nothing but TAKE, TAKE, TAKE without ever putting anything back into the system? Personally, I don't want to see a single penny of additional revenue raised until the SPENDING is returned to its Constitutional limitations. Until THAT occurs, nobody should be willingly providing ANY additional income to the Federal Government.


    You dont have to and its not me telling you too tigger...its the "OTHER" republicans...personally i dont care if you tone it down or not...its already lost more than a couple of elections...do what you think is best

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    If you work for a living check your first paycheck with a pay period ending date for January and compare it to one of your December checks and let me know if it went up.
    Can you read man...I said it would but it will be temporary..

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by gingern44 View Post
    I'm always amused to see what the perception of the "teaparty" has morphed into. When they first arrived on the scene I went to a website to see what they were about. I remember finding a 10 point statement that could be summed up in one sentence, "quit spending my grandchildren into oblivion". The most radical point I heard from them was the idea that if you send more money to Wash, Wash would do nothing to improve our fiscal outlook and would instead create new spending. Not only do I not consider that radical, it's spot on, as just demonstrated once again.

    The idea that the teaparty went after the poor, senior citizens, etc is absurd. They merely played the adult in the room and pointed out that anyone that thinks we are going to get out of this fiscal mess without impacting everyone including the poor, seniors, etc. is kidding themselves. The opposition to tax hikes on the rich is about not sending more money to Wash so Wash can't create new spending, the class warfare scene seems to be the lefts forte.

    I don't know where the "teaparty" will end up, but the people who want Wash to quit spending our grandchildren into oblivion are still here. Perhaps a bit sadder and poorer but still here.
    Most os the country categorically disagrees with you..and im not about to go point by point for the 50 millionth time

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Most os the country categorically disagrees with you..and im not about to go point by point for the 50 millionth time
    Proving propaganda works.

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by gingern44 View Post
    I'm always amused to see what the perception of the "teaparty" has morphed into. When they first arrived on the scene I went to a website to see what they were about. I remember finding a 10 point statement that could be summed up in one sentence, "quit spending my grandchildren into oblivion". The most radical point I heard from them was the idea that if you send more money to Wash, Wash would do nothing to improve our fiscal outlook and would instead create new spending. Not only do I not consider that radical, it's spot on, as just demonstrated once again.

    The idea that the teaparty went after the poor, senior citizens, etc is absurd. They merely played the adult in the room and pointed out that anyone that thinks we are going to get out of this fiscal mess without impacting everyone including the poor, seniors, etc. is kidding themselves. The opposition to tax hikes on the rich is about not sending more money to Wash so Wash can't create new spending, the class warfare scene seems to be the lefts forte.

    I don't know where the "teaparty" will end up, but the people who want Wash to quit spending our grandchildren into oblivion are still here. Perhaps a bit sadder and poorer but still here.
    The tea party is essentially against modern America, a modern economy, and modern science. They want to return to economic policies that brought us child labor and 6 day work weeks, with most wealth going to the wealthy, zero pollution control, zero regulation of the industries that dominate the economy and external costs. The deny climate science, evolution, and think scientists are in a conspiracy. Indeed they think everybody but them are conspiracing, which is part of their paranoid maladjusted politics.

    So your impression is about as off-base as possible.

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Can you read man...I said it would but it will be temporary..
    Really?

    When does it revert back to what it was a month ago?
    "When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -- Benjamin Franklin

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    Re: Fiscal Cliff Bill Passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Proving propaganda works.
    ok im done email rand paul for conversaton lol

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