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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Unless you are really the lowest of lowlifes you are at best hypocritical since you would all truly be the lowest pond scum if you said to your own kid: "Sorry son but I cant afford to take care of you and I dont think its anyone elses responsibility to pay for the operation so mommy and I decided to just let you die. Sorry about that but thats reality."

    The reality here is that those who think it is wrong to pool together to save lives or at least make end of life better; are the same type of people that we fought wars against.
    Either way that you look at it you guys are putting more value on money than human life. Individually I cannot help everyone even though I try and do what I can. Every since the first time that I spent any time at a nursing home I have made sure to at the very least show up at a nursing home on holidays. I try to go at least once a week just to communicate with the people that have no one to talk too. And some people may be surprised to learn that nursing homes also house children sometimes. But I am just an individual, but as a society we could do much better than I could ever do.

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    "Yet with the exception of a few loons and professional partisans, Americans opened their hearts and their billfolds - and they did so even though America itself is in the midst of hard times.
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    See you "loons and professional partisans" at the poles.

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I am not the one telling people they should just give up and die though. I would make it THEIR decision and NOT mine, so you are wrong again.
    Where did I give such an instruction?
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Hospice does not give life sustaining care. It gives comfort to the dying.
    They don't provide food and water? Change the bed sheets, etc.?

    I don't think that's right.

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll BET you wouldn't say that if it were you or one of yours! It's really a disgusting position. To hell with that 10% because we want to save money!

    And your point about "not being told" is in the OP! It says that people are NOT being informed and just having their treatment and/or palliative care withdrawn.

    To Maggie: It is ONLY a matter of time before they want to save money again, who's next?
    It's telling people what their chances are of surviving their illness, and fully informing their decision of what's best for them. You really should contol these emotional outbursts, they're not good for you.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    They don't provide food and water? Change the bed sheets, etc.?

    I don't think that's right.
    ^ oh brother-

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    No man is left behind
    When Americans Pull Together - CBS News

    "Yet with the exception of a few loons and professional partisans, Americans opened their hearts and their billfolds - and they did so even though America itself is in the midst of hard times.
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    See you "loons and professional partisans" at the poles.
    That's a bit different from a majority coming together to pick the pockets of a minority of the people in the name of "compassion."

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --HL Mencken

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    ^ oh brother-
    Well, that's what is meant by "simple life sustaining care."

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That's a bit different from a majority coming together to pick the pockets of a minority of the people in the name of "compassion."
    Well there are two sets of "loons and professional partisans" at play here. Neither set represent compassion in society today.

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    All of us have price tags.

    This is the fundamental evil face of progressivism. Remember the words of an early 20th Century progressive, George Bernard Shaw....

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8lwg-NMWjE
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is the fundamental evil face of progressivism. Remember the words of an early 20th Century progressive, George Bernard Shaw....

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8lwg-NMWjE
    "Justify your existence." hmmm well i don't think that video has much at all to do with anything that I have said here. In fact, not many people these days could justify their existence according to Shaw's standards. I'm not suggesting that anyone be hauled off to a death camp or any such nonsense. But occasionally, nature needs to do its work. Death is a natural part of life. And since all things come to an end, prolonging suffering for the sake of pretending to value humanity is foolish and reckless. How many people here really value the lives of strangers? Not many, I would bet. It's easy to be an armchair warrior. It costs you nothing.

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