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60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

I felt I did, in your case you often mistake opinion for fact, and vice verse.

Never do. I merely point out better reasoning over lesser reasoning.
 
:lamo Oh God...Stop...You slay me.....:lamo

Well, lets try to get back on topic. You started this diversion. Do you have anything on topic?
 
With your opening statement....I understand that progressives are masters at re-labeling, or redefining what is said all in order to mask the ultimate goal of social utopia that you envision, however, Shaw beat you to it almost a hundred years ago, and at least he was straight forward with his progressive vision, and ends of his means. Today's progressive is trying too hard to hide what it is they want, and thus they just come off as liars.

lol I'm not an elitist, just a realist. Apparently, there are many folks in this thread who can't seem to comprehend the concept of a budget.
 
Well, lets try to get back on topic. You started this diversion. Do you have anything on topic?


What more would you like? You think something like that is unlikely here in America, and I think it is an obvious path of centralized control of health care... Sounds like that is about as far out to the end of our discussion that we can go, NO?
 
What more would you like? You think something like that is unlikely here in America, and I think it is an obvious path of centralized control of health care... Sounds like that is about as far out to the end of our discussion that we can go, NO?

Your choice. You. Jumped in. ;)
 
lol I'm not an elitist, just a realist. Apparently, there are many folks in this thread who can't seem to comprehend the concept of a budget.

Budget? Ask Harry Reid if he knows what one is....Then get back to me.
 
Do I need your approval to post now?

Nope. But you establishing a pattern. Leap, participate for a few posts, then go off insulting or misreading. Just curious as to why?
 
Nope. But you establishing a pattern. Leap, participate for a few posts, then go off insulting or misreading. Just curious as to why?


I only tend to insult when insulted first...Such as your little "misreading" quip....I may not be a community collage teacher, but I don't misread anything....I just don't agree with your liberal view. That is just you lashing out because someone doesn't agree with you, and rather than trying to get me to agree with you by constantly telling me that it is me that misunderstands, you need to come up with coherent arguments.
 
I only tend to insult when insulted first...Such as your little "misreading" quip....I may not be a community collage teacher, but I don't misread anything....I just don't agree with your liberal view. That is just you lashing out because someone doesn't agree with you, and rather than trying to get me to agree with you by constantly telling me that it is me that misunderstands, you need to come up with coherent arguments.
Actually you do. I wish it were not so, but it is. I have asked you to tell m best way to point this out to you. No insult is intended, but it isn't possible to debate a misreading.

And, I have very good discussions with may who disagree with me who don't misread. You've even commented on a few of them. I ask that seek to understand more than holding fast to a misperception.
 
Actually you do. I wish it were not so, but it is. I have asked you to tell m best way to point this out to you. No insult is intended, but it isn't possible to debate a misreading.

And, I have very good discussions with may who disagree with me who don't misread. You've even commented on a few of them. I ask that seek to understand more than holding fast to a misperception.

Well, allow me to turn the tables some then...You're the teacher, obviously you'd see a pattern if I am such a serial 'misreader'... Point out how, complete with examples of what you said, what I say, then where you think the problem is.
 
Well, allow me to turn the tables some then...You're the teacher, obviously you'd see a pattern if I am such a serial 'misreader'... Point out how, complete with examples of what you said, what I say, then where you think the problem is.

I have done that, and you focused on your being insulted. But, I'm more than willing to it again in the future.
 
I have done that, and you focused on your being insulted. But, I'm more than willing to it again in the future.


Why "in the future" Joe? Why, with so much to choose from, examples should be at your fingertips....
 
Why "in the future" Joe? Why, with so much to choose from, examples should be at your fingertips....

Ok. I'll go you your most recent misreading, though its a minor one.
 
IMO, no matter what, it's pretty sad that we would ever have to even contemplate putting money before people. I hate that.
 
For those who do not know (and I have not read all billion pages of this thread) it does happen in the US. Where I live, at least, rehab nursing homes refuse to accept chemo patients because they are too expensive unless they are taking the bottom of the ladder cheap chemo pills only.
 
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