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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Its a hospice.

    As Manc Skipper already posted: What is the Liverpool Care Pathway? - Health News - NHS Choices
    From the link...

    "However, as we have seen, there have been too many cases where patients were put on the pathway without a proper explanation or their families being involved. This is simply unacceptable."
    "Today I have committed to appoint an independent chair to review how end of life care is working and oversee the reviews into the LCP. This will report back to me in the new year. This review will also consider the value of locally set incentives, and whether they are leading to bad decisions or practice."
    So the director admits that these things have happened, and that there are financial incentives in termination, rather than treatment....Sometimes without consultation of the patient, or family...This is a non starter.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    From the link...



    So the director admits that these things have happened, and that there are financial incentives in termination, rather than treatment....Sometimes without consultation of the patient,
    Didnt say that

    or family...This is a non starter.
    Yes i know i never said it didnt.

    Simply said it seems some of you dont udnerstand what a hospice is.


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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Didnt say that


    Yes i know i never said it didnt.

    Simply said it seems some of you dont udnerstand what a hospice is.
    I know what a hospice is....but why are you denying what was said in the article you provided? Heck, I even posted the paragraph where it said that.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told but minister still says controversial end-of-life plan is 'fantastic' | Mail Online



    The "care pathway" is where they sedate patients and then withdraw life sustaining care, basically killing them off.

    Put the government in charge of health care and then see what happens when the government gets short of money.

    The BHS basically pays a bounty for every patient finished off this way. 130,000 patients are killed this way yearly, apparently almost half of them without consent.

    The British Health Minister calls the pathway "a great step forward."
    And progressives act like death panels don't exist when it comes to socialized health care. Of course when they come into fruition in the US they will brazenly defend them, yet Sarah Palin is the idiot?

    Just wait - the same people who mocked Palin will now be defending the idea when it ultimately occurs. Of course they wont call them "death panels" the will come up with a PC term such as "health care rationing."

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    And progressives act like death panels don't exist when it comes to socialized health care. Of course when they come into fruition in the US they will brazenly defend them, yet Sarah Palin is the idiot?

    Just wait - the same people who mocked Palin will now be defending the idea when it ultimately occurs. Of course they wont call them "death panels" the will come up with a PC term such as "health care rationing."

    they already have, it's called the Independant Patient Advisory Board.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I know what a hospice is....but why are you denying what was said in the article you provided? Heck, I even posted the paragraph where it said that.
    Show me where i denied what the article said please.


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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    my grandfather (83) had a brain stroke which was caused by a traffic accident and completely lost his conscious that led him to lay unconscious for 4 months untill his death.doctors said there was nothing else they can do for him anymore.

    but we didnt leave him alone and never stopped hoping he would recover.

    he died then but at least we dont feel guilty.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Show me where i denied what the article said please.
    I think he's speaking to his interpretation, to which you wrote, "didn't say that."

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Show me where i denied what the article said please.

    Well, I could be wrong because you intentionally left out the leading designator in this but, you opened the response with:

    Quote Originally Posted by theDemSocialist
    Didnt say that...
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    they already have, it's called the Independant Patient Advisory Board.
    So, when an insurance company says you can't have an unproven or snake oil type procedure, they're a death panel? That is what you would have to believe to call this a death panel.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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