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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    This is the end of life planning the Obamacare had, before they got caught and were forced to remove it.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is exceedingly difficult for family to make that decision. Most families? They can't do it. Actually? Loving pet owners are sometimes kinder to their dogs than they are to their mothers.
    So you want any random doctor to be able to sentence you to death without telling you? Do you know how many people have fought a terminal diagnosis and lived on?
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

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    The Mail is a toxic rag with a toxic agenda.
    Don't they lie and put a spin on everything?

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    Isn't it great..you work all your life..and when you become a burden..you get topped!!
    Yep, children do that with their aged parents every day here in the United States. "Here. You take her. She's too much a burden on our family. But you'd better treat her better than we did."

    These families were free to take their loved one(s) out of the hospital at any time. Why didn't they? They could have fed them and given them water. Why didn't they? The one guy says he watched his mother die over 33 hours. Hello? Why didn't he take her home and make sure she got food and water on her own then? Why didn't he feed her and give her water at the hospital? These sensational stories make me ill.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    A glaring omission from these Mail articles is exactly why the medical care facilities decided to put these seniors on the pathway. If the patients gave their consent, need the family be consulted, especially if the dying person does not ask for them?

    These are ****ty, alarmist articles that do no service to understanding what the pathway is and how it can allow people ease from suffering without the moral problem of euthanasia.
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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yep, children do that with their aged parents every day here in the United States. "Here. You take her. She's too much a burden on our family. But you'd better treat her better than we did."

    These families were free to take their loved one(s) out of the hospital at any time. Why didn't they? They could have fed them and given them water. Why didn't they? The one guy says he watched his mother die over 33 hours. Hello? Why didn't he take her home and make sure she got food and water on her own then? Why didn't he feed her and give her water at the hospital? These sensational stories make me ill.
    I agree Maggie...when I was a child it would have been totally shameless to put your mother or father into an ante-chamber of death anyway..

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Don't they lie and put a spin on everything?
    Yes..according to other newspapers..etc..

    But if they were lying..wouldn't they have been fined and/or closed down by now..

    I cannot remember them ever have being sued...

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    The death panel cometh.

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    Yes..according to other newspapers..etc..

    But if they were lying..wouldn't they have been fined and/or closed down by now..

    I cannot remember them ever have being sued...
    Freedom of the press. They are the Fox News of the newspaper world except they don't even try to hide they have a huge bias.

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    Re: 60,000 patients put on death pathway without being told...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I read that article. If it is true, they're killing off people who aren't necessarily terminal, just very old... and in some cases letting them starve to death apparently. Horrible.


    There's a difference between giving a dying person enough morphine to shorten his final suffering, and letting someone starve needlessly or killing off a man just because he is 90.
    Quality over quantity. I did clinicals this last semester in a nursing home. I promised my mom she would never set foot in such a place afterwards. These people are sitting in their waste and some with feeding tubes because families don't have the guts to end needless suffering, and because it isn't socially acceptable. THAT is tragic. And what's more: many of these families don't even bother visiting their "loved ones" because they're too busy or perhaps it makes them feel uncomfortable. It's truly pathetic that human beings are allowed to live like that. No dignity, self respect, or hope.

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