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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    At least you admit your wealth derives from the labor of others.
    Actually from both...it is the level of wealth that you are confused on...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    I think many people benefit from the labor of others not just the "rich"

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You know what is even funnier? That you fail to realize where the money comes from to make us the 'rich'...now, who exactly is gonna' pay more?

    now get back in front of the plow...
    Well, my boss will pay more, but it won't affect my salary. It will remain the same. Our work load is increasing so I guess I'll let you pull that plow.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    That makes alot of sense.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    You don't have to agree; you simply have to PAY more.

    I'm sorry, but watching a rich lawyer complain is too good to pass up!
    As a member of the DP Bar, I must object.

    The middle class is doing themselves a huge disservice lumping themselves in with the poor.

    I pay a lot of taxes. Business taxes, property taxes, excise taxes on 50 million phone lines, employer contributions toward employee taxes, well beyond just my personal taxes. But you know what, that does not bother me so much. What bothers me is that there is ZERO meaningful effort to control welfare spending or break the cycles of dependency. When the democrats cut from one place, they spend it somewhere else and pretend they saved billions of dollars. A lot of the alleged medicaid savings are just pushed onto medicare via the new extended medicare covered nursing home periods, for instance. What SSI has become should be an embarrassment to the democrats but they actually defend letting drug addicts and deadbeats game the system. I have zero problem helping a lot of people out, but I have huge fundamental irreconcilable problems with treating the social safety net as a political tool to game elections.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Well, my boss will pay more, but it won't affect my salary. It will remain the same. Our work load is increasing so I guess I'll let you pull that plow.
    Nope, my plow pullin' days are over...thank you very much...still failing to realize I see...one day maybe...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by cado20 View Post
    The problem there are too many moochers who live of the government and don't even look for work, there are 3rd generation people who learned not to work and to live off the system from their parents.
    Unless there's labor shortages I'm not too concerned with moochers. Just less competition for the jobs so that people who really want to work have better odds. I like employing people who want to work more than those who simply don't want to starve.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Maybe, but there are millions (with a M) of people who don't work, now you can't tell me that their jobs won't help boost the economy, and you also can't tell me that them having a job is a bad.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by cado20 View Post
    I think many people benefit from the labor of others not just the "rich"
    yeah the 47% who don't pay income tax for starters, yet use government services paid for by those taxes

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Exactly

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