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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    I’ve also been quite confused for some time on this tax thing. It is commonly said here on DP that ‘the Bush tax cuts went to the rich’ thus we need to raise theirs. If that were true then allowing all the BTC’s sunset would have no effect on the other brackets…?
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am responding to your idiotic assertion that I just ought to roll over and agree to more tax hikes.
    You don't have to agree; you simply have to PAY more.

    I'm sorry, but watching a rich lawyer complain is too good to pass up!

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    You don't have to agree; you simply have to PAY more.

    I'm sorry, but watching a rich lawyer complain is too good to pass up!
    its short sighted on your part, in the long run voting for tax hikers on the rich only comes back to screw you. one of the reasons why people like me are rich and you are complaining about us is that we see the long term rather than clamor for instant gratification

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how is keeping more money in peoples' pockets bad

    what is bad was all the idiotic spending-most of which have zero constitutional support

    Why are you trying to deflect from you post about how Bush 2 was better than Obama which he was not. Furthermore you are again deflecting on the fact that lower taxes do not equal more jobs, the only thing they do is raise the debt and deficit. However they may and very very thin may create jobs in the short term, long term they have been very bad for this country. You simply cant have more money in your pocket and pay down any debt the math does not work period. Please keep the Constitution out of this, this is something that Conservatives like to fall back on as some kind of shield for their ideology just like the bible when they need to have some random justification for their unsound social and fiscal principles.

    Republicans are largely responcible for the spending problems that is fact. Until they both come to the table with real cuts to the military, loopholes, taxes this is not going to happen. The Republicans did not want to deal with this until after the election which they like most Republicans thought they were going to win. This is something that should have been dealt with along time ago and one could argue that it should have happened in the late years of the Bush admin.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    The problem there are too many moochers who live of the government and don't even look for work, there are 3rd generation people who learned not to work and to live off the system from their parents.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    You don't have to agree; you simply have to PAY more.

    I'm sorry, but watching a rich lawyer complain is too good to pass up!
    You know what is even funnier? That you fail to realize where the money comes from to make us the 'rich'...now, who exactly is gonna' pay more?

    now get back in front of the plow...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You know what is even funnier? That you fail to realize where the money comes from to make us the 'rich'...now, who exactly is gonna' pay more?

    now get back in front of the plow...
    At least you admit your wealth derives from the labor of others.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Why are you trying to deflect from you post about how Bush 2 was better than Obama which he was not. Furthermore you are again deflecting on the fact that lower taxes do not equal more jobs, the only thing they do is raise the debt and deficit. However they may and very very thin may create jobs in the short term, long term they have been very bad for this country. You simply cant have more money in your pocket and pay down any debt the math does not work period. Please keep the Constitution out of this, this is something that Conservatives like to fall back on as some kind of shield for their ideology just like the bible when they need to have some random justification for their unsound social and fiscal principles.

    Republicans are largely responcible for the spending problems that is fact. Until they both come to the table with real cuts to the military, loopholes, taxes this is not going to happen. The Republicans did not want to deal with this until after the election which they like most Republicans thought they were going to win. This is something that should have been dealt with along time ago and one could argue that it should have happened in the late years of the Bush admin.
    we will have to disagree. If you are a net tax payer Bush was far better, If you prefer to suck from the Public teat or you get power pandering to said teat suckers, then Obama is better.

    the main reason why government is too big is due to the New Deal and the massive reorganization of the constitutional jurisprudence foisted upon the USA by FDR's lapdog jurists.

    I love how you just want to ignore the constitution but then again, that is consistent with your party's history for the last 80 years

    and based on your asserted social issue which might trump economics-Yes Obama is probably better for that one issue that may be of upmost importance for you

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    At least you admit your wealth derives from the labor of others.
    LOL workers of the world unite mantra.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by cado20 View Post
    The problem there are too many moochers who live of the government and don't even look for work, there are 3rd generation people who learned not to work and to live off the system from their parents.
    its in the DNC's interest to create legions of teat suckers who vote to keep the teat full of milk paid for by others

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