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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

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    Only certain kinds of companies.
    I'm no expert. What type of investor gets dividends without limited liability?

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Wait. What's getting cut?

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Yes, starting by not spending 1.2 trillion more than I take in until I manage to increase my revenue.
    Like I said, the bills don't go away. Nor do responsibilities.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

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    We cant cut a dime from the military.How would we be able to deter any imaginary boogiemen?

    When the Republicans recently voted unanimously to spend almost as much next year as the rest of the world combined on military, I knew they were no more concerned about the national debt than they were when they voted unanimously for the $2 trillion dollar optional war in Iraq.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    [QUOTE=TheDemSocialist;1061307172]I would agree vacations on the taxpayer time is a waste of money


    I would disagree that this is a waste of money.
    1.)It saves lives. Many people die from cars hitting deers, and trust me in the state of Kansas deers are considered a pest.
    2.)It helps keep the natural environment
    Promote more deer hunting; raise bag limits for hunters; decrease the population and actually creat revenue from the sell of hunting licenses. Problem solved.


    Never heard of turtle tunnels.
    You didn't hear about $3.4 million being spent on turtle tunnels in Florida?

    Turtle Tunnel

    But i think in my opinion the right place to start would be our giant military industrial complex
    Why? The so called military industrial complex creates technology that keeps our sons and daughters safe on the battlefield. Definitely does something for the country, because in war, it's always the best and brightest that die firstest and the mostest.

    corporate welfare
    Like the half billion+ plus dollars pissed away on Solyndra? Or GE supposedly not paying any income taxes, because of billions in green energy tax credits and breaks?

    I couldn't agree more. If "alternative energy" is such a great idea, the private sector should already be developing the technology and wouldn't need any government subsidies to get off the ground. They sure as hell wouldn't flop, even with government subsidies.

    oil subsidies.
    I would agree...in in fact, they actually existed. Since they don't, let's just concentrate on real money wasting programs vice immaginary subsidies.

    I think we should concentrate on doing away with million dollar projects, such as studying dino-doo-doo in China and the study of Alaskan grandparents.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    We cant cut a dime from the military.How would we be able to deter any imaginary boogiemen?
    You do know that it was the military that located and killed UBL. Right?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

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    I don't get this. Corporations are -- by definition -- separate entities from the ownership. That's the whole point of limited liabability. That's the price you pay for protection, as an investor, from whatever liabilities a corporation may accrue.
    Owe some taxes and see how seperate the corporation is from the ownership.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    We cant cut a dime from the military.How would we be able to deter any imaginary boogiemen?
    On December 6, 1941 the thought of an attack by the Japanese was thought to be impossible. The reason we spend on our military is for the occasions that happens the day after.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    That's simple: To help pay down the national debt and get our deficit under control.

    I get the GOP ideological mindset that says that the best way to pay down the debt is to have more people working thus paying into the Treasury via federal income taxes, but since unemployment is still high and we know that spending cuts alone won't solve the problem AND the only class of wage earners who have made money during the recessionary period has been the wealth/investor-class, it makes sense that those who CAN afford to pay more now should do so.

    You can't tell me that all those millionairs and billionairs who contributed BILLIONS to both Pres. Obama, Mitt Romney, as well as every other congressmen and Senator who was up for election/re-election couldn't have put that money to better use by either paying higher wages or re-investing back into their businesses when "consumer confidence" was the problem that stiffled consumption. SuperPACs be damned!

    So, I really don't want to hear that the wealth-class is having financial problems or that you're somehow being treated unfairly. Spare me you sorrow.
    Perfectly summarized. Thanks.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    I like employing people who want to work more than those who simply don't want to starve.
    That's a great perspective, I'll probably use this quote in conversation in the future.
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