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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't use any federal entitlement program - not welfare, not Medicaid, not unemployment, I don't live in a HUD home, I pay my own cell phone bill and I have private health insurance. Try laying that guilt trip on somebody else.
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    then why do you demand others pay more when they use even less than you do?
    You know why.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    when you start paying as much for each dollar of "benefits" you get than you will be in a position to make such a stupid comment. Its time for people like you to start getting billed for all the crap you want from government rather than telling others to pay your tab

    I don't expect you to pay for me so why should I pay for you
    In 2011, someone making over one mill$ payed as a percent of income, Fed,state, and local taxes 29% ,those making up to 105k$ payed 29.5%.Those making over one mill$, their SS is payed in about five weeks,those making 105k$ pay SS all year long.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    In 2011, someone making over one mill$ payed as a percent of income, Fed,state, and local taxes 29% ,those making up to 105k$ payed 29.5%.Those making over one mill$, their SS is payed in about five weeks,those making 105k$ pay SS all year long.
    I find those numbers bogus and based on funny games with state tax rates and using FICA


    so you think the purpose of the federal income tax is to balance out taxes at the state level taxes never intended to be progressive>

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I knew they would. Now lets see how bad it ****s us over. Hope its not too bad.
    And who said you and I couldn't find something to agree on?
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I find those numbers bogus and based on funny games with state tax rates and using FICA


    so you think the purpose of the federal income tax is to balance out taxes at the state level taxes never intended to be progressive>
    I'm shocked that you find "those numbers bogus". Where in my post did you get the idea that the purpose of "federal income tax is to balance out taxes "?NO! that would be the last thing i would want.Taxes are too skewed to the top 2% as it is now.

    What i have in mind is % tax and ALL INCOME,be it in the Caymons,Burmuda,wherever. And SS collected on it as well.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    I suppose you are handing out millions of jobs (with a M) for all the moochers? Maybe you could give up your job for one of them?
    So you dont care about others and are a arrogant person, you don't care about the unemployment of Millions (with a M). yes because people having jobs and working and paying taxes to the government is bad right? according to you atleast.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    I'm shocked that you find "those numbers bogus". Where in my post did you get the idea that the purpose of "federal income tax is to balance out taxes "?NO! that would be the last thing i would want.Taxes are too skewed to the top 2% as it is now.

    What i have in mind is % tax and ALL INCOME,be it in the Caymons,Burmuda,wherever. And SS collected on it as well.
    well you seem to think federal taxes need to be even more progressive to make the overall tax bill much higher percentages on the rich because some taxes are flat or the same amount

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well you seem to think federal taxes need to be even more progressive to make the overall tax bill much higher percentages on the rich because some taxes are flat or the same amount
    Whats wrong with a percentage of all income, be it wages, stockmarket dividends,gramps will,bonuses.ALL INCOME PERIOD.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And who said you and I couldn't find something to agree on?
    No matter what we were going to get some sort of austerity package, and it looks like our turn has come.


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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    At least they permanently indexed the AMT, about ****ing time.
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