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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    And if this passes the senate what odds does it have of passing the house?
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    This deal was made months ago. Don't you guys get it? This was all for show. NOT ONE of those folks had any plans to let us go over the "fiscal cliff". But they had to play at it, to show each side's constituants how serious they are, and how hard they fight for "the people".

    If each side were actually serious, this pile of garbage would have been crafted months ago, and it wouldn't be so much a pile of garbage.


    Does it really take a freaking genius to determine that the way out of this mess is to spend a little less, and take in a little more? Seriously? Is it THAT hard?
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    sadly, not good chances

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Its not that simple, and it somewhats takes a genius to figure out the mess Obama's made and how we are going to clean it up, O and please trust me this was not a show they just cant reach agreement because they are serious

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    This deal was made months ago. Don't you guys get it? This was all for show. NOT ONE of those folks had any plans to let us go over the "fiscal cliff". But they had to play at it, to show each side's constituants how serious they are, and how hard they fight for "the people".

    If each side were actually serious, this pile of garbage would have been crafted months ago, and it wouldn't be so much a pile of garbage.


    Does it really take a freaking genius to determine that the way out of this mess is to spend a little less, and take in a little more? Seriously? Is it THAT hard?

    I think it is a strong possibility this way was agreed upon to let the GOP save face with their base and their pledge not to raise taxes. This way the taxes increase automatically and then they can claim credit for lowering tax rates for the majority of the country.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think it is a strong possibility this way was agreed upon to let the GOP save face with their base and their pledge not to raise taxes. This way the taxes increase automatically and then they can claim credit for lowering tax rates for the majority of the country.
    How original...check post #10...
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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think it is a strong possibility this way was agreed upon to let the GOP save face with their base and their pledge not to raise taxes. This way the taxes increase automatically and then they can claim credit for lowering tax rates for the majority of the country.
    Are you serious!? If anyone was trying to look good it was the Democrats.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah the 47% who don't pay income tax for starters, yet use government services paid for by those taxes
    What more to pay, work harder at that trickle down thingie.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by cado20 View Post
    Maybe, but there are millions (with a M) of people who don't work, now you can't tell me that their jobs won't help boost the economy, and you also can't tell me that them having a job is a bad.
    I suppose you are handing out millions of jobs (with a M) for all the moochers? Maybe you could give up your job for one of them?

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    Re: Obama, Republicans reach deal on fiscal cliff; Senate vote expected tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    I suppose you are handing out millions of jobs (with a M) for all the moochers? Maybe you could give up your job for one of them?
    they probably would screw up and lose it, that is often the reason why they don't have jobs and others do

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