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    Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    An attorney for Hobby Lobby Stores said Thursday that the arts and crafts chain plans to defy a federal mandate requiring it to offer employees health coverage that includes access to the morning-after pill, despite risking potential fines of up to $1.3 million per day.
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    1) Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to impose your religious views on others. Your freedom of religion stops where my own freedom of religion begins.

    2) If Hobby Lobby wants to pay 1.3 million in fines per day, then by all means let them. It will help reduce our deficit a tiny bit. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, for volunteering to pay a little more.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    When I bought it, the MAP was $50. Currently it ranges from $10-70 according to the Planned Parenthood website. There's no justifiable reason for mandating that a company's insurance policy cover it.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have 2 statements to make here:

    1) Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to impose your religious views on others. Your freedom of religion stops where my own freedom of religion begins.

    2) If Hobby Lobby wants to pay 1.3 million in fines per day, then by all means let them. It will help reduce our deficit a tiny bit. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, for volunteering to pay a little more.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is abortion a religion?
    Those who practice "religion" are claiming that "contraception", as a morning after pill, is abortion, and is against their religion. That is the reason Hobby Lobby is defying the Supreme Court ruling.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    They are a private employer, they have ever right to deny the morning after pill being on covered insurance plans. If having birth control coverage is a make or break deal then find another job or purchase your own plan. If not, keep $50 in your account to pay for Plan B if you ever need it.

    This whole issue of mandated birth control coverage makes me sick and is completely medically unethical.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They are a private employer, they have ever right to deny the morning after pill being on covered insurance plans. If having birth control coverage is a make or break deal then find another job or purchase your own plan. If not, keep $50 in your account to pay for Plan B if you ever need it.

    This whole issue of mandated birth control coverage makes me sick and is completely medically unethical.
    No, they DON'T have the right to refuse it. It is LAW, so far upheld by the Supreme Court, although this case is going to be on the docket later this year.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No, they DON'T have the right to refuse it. It is LAW, so far upheld by the Supreme Court, although this case is going to be on the docket later this year.
    I think it's a violation of rights in my view and if upheld the law needs to be repealed. They should fight it just as others do. I don't think the "law of the land" has stopped too many groups from fighting for what they believe is their right.

    The whole notion that the government is going to force private employers to pay for birth control is just ludicrous and insanely medically unethical.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have 2 statements to make here:

    1) Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to impose your religious views on others. Your freedom of religion stops where my own freedom of religion begins.
    It seems clear that big government is imposing its views on Hobby Lobby while Hobby Lobby is not imposing its views on anyone.

    2) If Hobby Lobby wants to pay 1.3 million in fines per day, then by all means let them. It will help reduce our deficit a tiny bit. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, for volunteering to pay a little more.
    Anywhere else that would be gouging and/or extortion. The government will not reduce the deficit through extortion or having people put out of work. This 'might makes right' philosophy at one time only occurred elsewhere in the world, not in the United States.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Those who practice "religion" are claiming that "contraception", as a morning after pill, is abortion, and is against their religion. That is the reason Hobby Lobby is defying the Supreme Court ruling.

    I know...But your post read like the morning after pill was also a religion...just sayin'
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have 2 statements to make here:

    1) Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to impose your religious views on others. Your freedom of religion stops where my own freedom of religion begins.

    2) If Hobby Lobby wants to pay 1.3 million in fines per day, then by all means let them. It will help reduce our deficit a tiny bit. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, for volunteering to pay a little more.

    Article is here
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    How is your free exercise of religion not impacted if you, as an employer must provide a benefit against your religious beliefs to others, or pay a fine not to do so? The SCOTUS will hear this case and that fine will never be paid. Giving the gov't power to order anyone to pay for a private service that they do not wish to offer, or to buy a private product that they do not wish to have should be unconstitutional. The silly opinion of 5/4 of our nine robed umpires that the income tax law allows for added taxation based upon what you did not "voluntarily" spend your income on is absurd. Today that may be only private medical care insurance (details to be specified later), tomorrow it might be little "green" electric carts and solar/wind chargres. Allowing the gov't to mandate personal or business income allocation for any private product/service is way out of Constitutional bounds.
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