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Grant said:
Fighters jets are going to be the issue in the next Canadian election??? I hope you're joking.



Justin Trudeau would be another Barrack Obama. It was his father's economical pov that took Canada to the brink and yes, the Liberals did get Canada out of the jam that the Liberals largely created. Credit does belongs to Paul Martin and Jean Chretien but the son of Pierre is neither.



Yes, the NDP always pretend they are Conservatives before an election, just as BHO did in his first run at the Presidency. If they are Conservative why don't they run as Conservatives rather than Socialists.



What do the Canadian people think of as "value?



What "social issues? Is it a "war against women". "The rich are not paying their fair share"? Nor free condoms? Bloor Street is full of robber barons?



And he obviously gave good advice and was a major influence on the strong Canadian economy right until the day he resigned his position. Too bad he went to London but I'm hoping his policies remain in place.
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1)Yes they are, considering the cost of them is larger than the deficit and the generals say we don't don't need that model.
2)Justin would be a disaster, his father had the charisma and the know how, Justin did not inherit that.
3)Well the economy went up and down it generally does over decades so it's expected.
4)That's not a Conservative policy, raising taxes and cutting subsidies is exactly what they should be doing.
5)Generally healthcare is the biggest issue, cut that you lose the election pretty simple. We generally value the services that government provides.
6)First of all it's Bay Street. Second the abortion debate crippled them, I can guarantee most of the Conservatives that voted for it will lose their seats. There is also the refugee issue that ties into healthcare along with other issues I can not remember this late at night.
7) Yes I agree, I wish the Brits would not have stolen him.
 
I find it really funny when liberals like on this thread say how conservatives are in the past and need to look forward, and need to be able to relate to this generation. O please, we are losing the values,the morals, and our success, you don't mess with success these are the things that made us great. Everything seems morally acceptable.
 
Grant said:
If the Conservatives lose the next election Canadians will have decided, like the majority of American electorate, that they can spend themselves rich. I thought the American electorate were more sophisticated than what happened last November and it remains to be seen if Canadians fall for that craziness as well.
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Hopefully it is because they learned that conservatives suck at governing. They talk big about growth and prosperity when their actual record while in power is poor at best.
It's hard to tell whether it is their policies, cronyism, paranoia or what but they just don't deliver where it counts.

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0bserver92 said:
1)Yes they are, considering the cost of them is larger than the deficit and the generals say we don't don't need that model.
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Here's the latest and it tends to contradict what you're saying. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/techno...g+sixth+generation+fighter/7690204/story.html

2)Justin would be a disaster, his father had the charisma and the know how, Justin did not inherit that.
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I hope Canadians get away from the "charisma" silliness and vote for competence and experience instead.
3)Well the economy went up and down it generally does over decades so it's expected.
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The economy went up as Canada's debt went down. It is no coincidence. People need security when they are going to invest and right now Canada is providing that security. Other county's are not.
4)That's not a Conservative policy, raising taxes and cutting subsidies is exactly what they should be doing.
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I don't believe raising taxes is the right thing to do unless we have a very clear idea where that money will be going and what alternatives there might be. Sustainability is what the government should be providing and raising taxes without a clear objective does not inspire confidence. I certainly agree about the subsides. I reckon Canadians can stand on their own and if they can't then they should find other means of production. It's a matter of pride as far as I'm concerned.
5)Generally healthcare is the biggest issue, cut that you lose the election pretty simple. We generally value the services that government provides.
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What the people want and what the government can provide is often at odds. Like you say. any politician who threatens health care will be defeated, despite every other issue, and of course the same thing will happen now in the States. It's affordability will never be an issue. It will continue until the entire economy collapses.

Luckily I don't see that happening any time soon but if we get a government who's elected via spending promises, and also has to cover health care costs, then the economic future of the country wil. like the US, be in jeopardy.
6)First of all it's Bay Street. Second the abortion debate crippled them, I can guarantee most of the Conservatives that voted for it will lose their seats. There is also the refugee issue that ties into healthcare along with other issues I can not remember this late at night.
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Yes, Bay Street. I saw that later but thought it was no big deal. Not abortion again! Another damned silly issue that only sidetracks from the real issues. Actually the refugee issue has been given a recent boost, I think. I speak Spanish and was talking to a Mexican immigrant in PEI a few years ago and more Americans are being sought for high paying jobs in Alberta as well. I don't see a pressing problem with Canada's immigration policies.
7) Yes I agree, I wish the Brits would not have stolen him.[/QUOTE]

He'll do them well.
 
iguanaman said:
Hopefully it is because they learned that conservatives suck at governing. They talk big about growth and prosperity when their actual record while in power is poor at best.
It's hard to tell whether it is their policies, cronyism, paranoia or what but they just don't deliver where it counts.

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You're confusing Republicans with Conservatives.
 
Grant said:
I don't believe raising taxes is the right thing to do unless we have a very clear idea where that money will be going
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Well we don't know that now the budget watchdog is suing the Conservatives because they won't say what they are cutting. That's one of the things I forgot about. You talked to a Latino? That's news to me I have never seen one. No it was a refugee issue not an immigrant issue, though the immigration minister is causing quite a stir. Then there was some issues with Iranian immigrants and banks. Abortion is usually not a big issue since we threw out all abortion laws in 1988 and it has been unregulated since. The proposal was put forawrd by a pro-life backbencher and was booed by his party and was steam rolled when it came to the vote. Anyone who voted for it will probably lose their seat, others were smart they are pro-life but they voted how their constituents wanted.
 
apdst said:
Practicing one's religion is now discrimination? :lamo

That's rich!
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weird that was NEVER said LMAO, make something else up while your at it :)

i see you are still ignoring my hospital and job example, is that "practicing religion" :laughat:
 
j-mac said:
Then you are beyond rational conversational help....Nothing more I can do for you here.
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translation: NOTHING

thats what i thought LOL
 
0bserver92 said:
Well we don't know that now the budget watchdog is suing the Conservatives because they won't say what they are cutting.
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If they know then they should say.

That's one of the things I forgot about. You talked to a Latino? That's news to me I have never seen one.
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It surprised me as well. She was the desk clerk at a hotel I was checking into and she was very surprised to hear me speak Spanish to her. She said the Canadian government was bringing in Mexicans on contract and they could work towards their residency and eventual citizenship if they stayed out of trouble. She said that many Mexicans were working in the fishing industry because so many PEI workers had gone to Alberta. there are quite a few Latinos here in Vancouver..

No it was a refugee issue not an immigrant issue, though the immigration minister is causing quite a stir.
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Right. Not aware of the refugee issue.

Then there was some issues with Iranian immigrants and banks.
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Yeah, I heard about the Iranian complaints that Canada is racist. Screw them.,

Abortion is usually not a big issue since we threw out all abortion laws in 1988 and it has been unregulated since. The proposal was put forawrd by a pro-life backbencher and was booed by his party and was steam rolled when it came to the vote. Anyone who voted for it will probably lose their seat, others were smart they are pro-life but they voted how their constituents wanted.
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Then it is going nowhere but opponents will certainly try to make it an issue. It might be another "war on women" thing.
 
Grant said:
If they know then they should say.



It surprised me as well. She was the desk clerk at a hotel I was checking into and she was very surprised to hear me speak Spanish to her. She said the Canadian government was bringing in Mexicans on contract and they could work towards their residency and eventual citizenship if they stayed out of trouble. She said that many Mexicans were working in the fishing industry because so many PEI workers had gone to Alberta. there are quite a few Latinos here in Vancouver..



Right. Not aware of the refugee issue.



Yeah, I heard about the Iranian complaints that Canada is racist. Screw them.,



Then it is going nowhere but opponents will certainly try to make it an issue. It might be another "war on women" thing.
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1) Well they don't want to for the reasons I said before, they will probably lose the next election. Thank god we have watchdogs.
2) I don't know Spanish confusing language but I know French. I guess PEI would need to if they are going to Alberta.
3) Well it was over healthcare and the fact Conservatives were cutting it because refugees can abuse healthcare apparently. I don't know how.
4) No not Iranian Iranians, I couldn't give a damn about them. Iranians that are Canadian citizens had their accounts frozen.
5) No it's dead now.
 
How many unwanted pregnancies are the result of the partners not concerned with the woman getting pregnant as a result of the sex act? How many young people actually practice safe sex after all the decades of infighting on the issues surrounding abortion? In Texas the courts have ruled that Texans do not have to pay a single penny to Planned Parenthood which should be re-named Give-A-Damn Parenthood because we do not want to pay for abortions for lazy irresponsible jerks. I support Hobby Lobby as a company still must be allowed to stand up to this gluttonous, dictatorial federal government.
 
Objective-J said:
translation: NOTHING

thats what i thought LOL
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Translation: I ignore what I want, and hide behind my demand for facts as if everything I've been given is opinion.

Dude, get over your ego.
 
rhinefire said:
How many unwanted pregnancies are the result of the partners not concerned with the woman getting pregnant as a result of the sex act? How many young people actually practice safe sex after all the decades of infighting on the issues surrounding abortion? In Texas the courts have ruled that Texans do not have to pay a single penny to Planned Parenthood which should be re-named Give-A-Damn Parenthood because we do not want to pay for abortions for lazy irresponsible jerks. I support Hobby Lobby as a company still must be allowed to stand up to this gluttonous, dictatorial federal government.
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So lets get this straight. Conservatives bitch about abortions but then also bitch when the woman has to go on welfare to support the kid because she didn't get an abortion.

So what it comes down to is some conservatives will just bitch about anything.
 
TheNextEra said:
So lets get this straight. Conservatives bitch about abortions but then also bitch when the woman has to go on welfare to support the kid because she didn't get an abortion.

So what it comes down to is some conservatives will just bitch about anything.
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It's important for leftists to understand that they must use quotes whenever they are offering an opinion on what others say or believe. They are so easily confused that without verifiable documentation their opinions are just a waste of space and time.
 
Grant said:
It's important for leftists to understand that they must use quotes whenever they are offering an opinion on what others say or believe. They are so easily confused that without verifiable documentation their opinions are just a waste of space and time.
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Ah so you claim conservatives haven't been bitching about welfare?
 
0bserver92 said:
1) Well they don't want to for the reasons I said before, they will probably lose the next election. Thank god we have watchdogs.
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I had a rethink about this and while I support openness and government, what business is it of this government watchdog what might be cut from the budget? Isn't this the job of the opposition parties? If this watchdog is against wasted tax dollars I can certainly see it but I'm not certain an unelected official should have that power.
2) I don't know Spanish confusing language but I know French. I guess PEI would need to if they are going to Alberta.
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If you are fluent in French,. Spanish is much easier. Don't understand your reference to Alberta.


4) No not Iranian Iranians, I couldn't give a damn about them. Iranians that are Canadian citizens had their accounts frozen.
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I'll trust the judgement of the Canadian government here.
 
Grant said:
Were you unable to read the part about using quotes?
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Well since your making no sense my guess is senility has set in for you.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well since your making no sense my guess is senility has set in for you.
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Don't guess. Use quotes. Guessing at economics and social problems is what Leftists do, with poor guesses being the general result.

Using quotes may give you a start in the right direction.
 
Grant said:
Don't guess. Use quotes. Guessing at economics and social problems is what Leftists do, with poor guesses being the general result.

Using quotes may give you a start in the right direction.
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Conservatives complaining about the welfare state is well known.
 
Grant said:
And Leftists encouraging the welfare state is also well known. Where's the problem?
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The problem is conservatives bitching about abortions and then bitching about the welfare state that people use to support their children that cons don't want aborted . So cons bitch no matter what.
 
I find it very informative that the same folks here who want to deprive HL owners of their First Amendment rights are at the same time adamant about the slightest restriction of FA rights for everyone they perceive as being on their "side".

The democrats have a good deal of the power in politics right now, and they're playing straight to the old truism that those witout power make bloody hypocites of themselves once they gain power. The republicans did this when they gained power.
 
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TheNextEra said:
So lets get this straight. Conservatives bitch about abortions but then also bitch when the woman has to go on welfare to support the kid because she didn't get an abortion.

So what it comes down to is some conservatives will just bitch about anything.
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No, what it comes down to is the fact that the idiots on the right aren't conservatives, they're neo-conservatives, which essentially translates into hyper-religious liberals.
 
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