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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Unlike contraception coverage, dental and vision coverage would cost quite a bit more but if you say it needs to be covered I won't argue. Maybe next year.
    Great idea!

    Why not have employers pay food and rent as well? Like all costs they'll probably just absorb the expense rather than passing it along to the consumer.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    See post #34.
    Yet pretty much every company offers both dental and vision coverage. In both cases, coverage comes at a higher cost, which is not the case with contraceptives.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The company is providing health care, and I don't know any religion that considers health care a violation.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    As a rely to the bolded part of your question: It is mandated by PPACA to be at "no out of pocket cost to the patient", in other words, directly, and fully, funded by the employer; the personal choice of "abortion pill" use, by the PPACA insured, is thus covered totally by the employer's contribution. Had the employee decided to use only their own funds for that purpose, the employer has no direct knowldge or control over that choice, any more than if the employee gave part of their pay to a satanic cult.
    Nope that does not make any sense either. HC coverage is a benefit of being employed, the same as a salary is. The employee is working for those benefits, they are not gifts from the employer.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Cool, I want the government to pay for my medical marijuana too.
    Why not? As long as they are mandating coverage for elective things.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yet pretty much every company offers both dental and vision coverage. In both cases, coverage comes at a higher cost, which is not the case with contraceptives.
    However, the government doesn't require it, and it is at the company's option to offer it to their employees. Unlike the funding of employee's private sexual activity.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yet pretty much every company offers both dental and vision coverage. In both cases, coverage comes at a higher cost, which is not the case with contraceptives.
    PPACA exchange mandated policies do not, so the point was valid. Also PPACA mandates that gov't selected benefits be paid "at no out of pocket cost" to the insured, thus these services are paid for by all policy holders not only those that use them. This is a huge difference from what was once an optional policy feature.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    However, the government doesn't require it, and it is at the company's option to offer it to their employees. Unlike the funding of employee's private sexual activity.
    Then I'm sure you'll support companies being able to remove cancer treatment from their insurance plans, why should they have to pay for their employee's private smoking, drinking and other lifestyle choices?
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Nope that does not make any sense either. HC coverage is a benefit of being employed, the same as a salary is. The employee is working for those benefits, they are not gifts from the employer.
    Then perhaps an alternative might be to give the employees the extra cash involved and leave the personal decisions up to the employee.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They're not being compelled to provide it, the plan that is offered simply includes it and they are making a big deal of insisting it is removed from the plan offered by the insurance company.
    The insurance companies were compelled to cover it. Clearly the problem with Hobby Lobby is that they want to pick a plan they agree with which before the mandate they could do.

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