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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by jwzg View Post
    Translation: I ignore what I want, and hide behind my demand for facts as if everything I've been given is opinion.

    Dude, get over your ego.
    what ego, the eog of understand how rights, laws and facts work, giving examples of how they work and watching a hand full of people go but but but but but nu-huh LOL

    also everything given to me that i called opinion was in fact 100% opinion
    ego has nothing to do with reality, laws, rights, freedoms and facts
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Let's see, they're not fiscally responsible, which is one of the hallmarks of conservatism, in fact, they spend like drunken sailors, just like the liberals. They only vary in the source of their funding for their irresponsible spending. They also are not for small government, another hallmark of conservatism, but for uncontrolled government growth, just like liberals. They are absolutely not for keeping government out of people's lives, they want to control what you say, what you think, etc.

    So it seems like a pretty good evaluation of the modern-day neo-conservative, wouldn't you say?
    No, it is completely at odds with reality. If they behave in the fashion you describe they are not neo-conservatives, they are also not conservatives. Best you should do some research on the subject before offering your opinions.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    "The mandate of the Parliamentary Budget Officer is to provide independent analysis to Parliament on the state of the nation's finances, the government's estimates and trends in the Canadian economy; and upon request from a committee or parliamentarian, to estimate the financial cost of any proposal for matters over which Parliament has jurisdiction." Ironically it was the Conservatives who really pushed to have this created.
    From what you described it is financial cuts, not costs, that the PBO wants. It doesn't seem to be under their jurisdiction on the face of it. Here's the story and it does seem that the Watchdog is overstepping boundaries. His own self importance is getting in the way. Budget watchdog takes feds to court - The Globe and Mail

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, it is completely at odds with reality. If they behave in the fashion you describe they are not neo-conservatives, they are also not conservatives. Best you should do some research on the subject before offering your opinions.
    That's how the Republican party acts! And no, they are not conservatives, the neo-conservatives are actually expatriate Southern Democrats who abandoned the Democrat party in the 60s and 70s over issues like civil rights and abortion. They moved to the Republican party and have now largely taken over. Where have you been?
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    From what you described it is financial cuts, not costs, that the PBO wants. It doesn't seem to be under their jurisdiction on the face of it. Here's the story and it does seem that the Watchdog is overstepping boundaries. His own self importance is getting in the way. Budget watchdog takes feds to court - The Globe and Mail
    The government has accused Mr. Page of operating outside his mandate as spending watchdog – an office the Conservatives established in 2006 as part of their promise to provide greater accountability to taxpayers.
    That was why they wanted it in the first place he is not overstepping his boundaries, it's his job.
    Opposition members say that means they are being asked to vote on budget bills without understanding the full ramifications of their decisions.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    That was why they wanted it in the first place he is not overstepping his boundaries, it's his job.
    Well apparently that will be up to the courts to decide but after reading the article I tend to side with the government. We'll see.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well apparently that will be up to the courts to decide but after reading the article I tend to side with the government. We'll see.
    I take the side of the opposition, how are they suppose to know what they are voting for?

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's how the Republican party acts!
    That's how both parties act, and that's also true of political parties in many of the democracies. Politicians want to get elected and bribing people with their own money seems to be the easiest way.
    And no, they are not conservatives, the neo-conservatives are actually expatriate Southern Democrats who abandoned the Democrat party in the 60s and 70s over issues like civil rights and abortion. They moved to the Republican party and have now largely taken over. Where have you been?
    I've been reading.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    I take the side of the opposition, how are they suppose to know what they are voting for?
    If they don't know what they are voting for than they should npot vote. But it seems like it hasn;t reached that stage at this point.

    Recall when Nancy Pelosi said that the House would have to pass Obamacare before they could read it? I certainly don't want that to happen in Canada so if that ever becomes the case I'd be with you 100%

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If they don't know what they are voting for than they should npot vote. But it seems like it hasn;t reached that stage at this point.

    Recall when Nancy Pelosi said that the House would have to pass Obamacare before they could read it? I certainly don't want that to happen in Canada so if that ever becomes the case I'd be with you 100%
    Well most of the departments aren't reporting what they are cutting so the opposition can't question it, and they can't vote on or propose changes.

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