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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Well it's not a problem of if it's a problem of how, the Conservatives are probably going to lose next election due to how they balanced the budget. Americans seem to have dug themselves into a giant hole that will take decades to climb out of if ever.
    If the Conservatives lose the next election Canadians will have decided, like the majority of American electorate, that they can spend themselves rich. I thought the American electorate were more sophisticated than what happened last November and it remains to be seen if Canadians fall for that craziness as well.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, you did. Right here:
    No I used the right as an example of not following personal responsibility when they cry about others not doing it.. That doesn't mean others don't do it, but then righties bring up personal responsibility but don't follow it themselves. Again hypocritical. Thank you for playing.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If the Conservatives lose the next election Canadians will have decided, like the majority of American electorate, that they can spend themselves rich. I thought the American electorate were more sophisticated than what happened last November and it remains to be seen if Canadians fall for that craziness as well.
    Well here there is one giant elephant that you can shot to solve budget problem just Conservatives want to make it bigger. It's called fighter jets. Canada became strong under Liberal governments and will just get stronger both sides have proven they can balance the budget just in different ways. The NDP take a cut corporate subsidies and raise corporate taxes then spend that on small businesses and pay down the debt. The Conservatives are cutting everything people value so there is a really high chance they will lose considering polls for the Conservatives have apparently plummeted 16% since last year. The social issues are also crippling the Conservatives they have shot themselves in the foot too many times. I thought I should also mention that Mark Carney the guy who everyone says is one of the best economists in the world, and is praised by the Conservatives is formerly an adviser to the Liberal finance minster.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Well here there is one giant elephant that you can shot to solve budget problem just Conservatives want to make it bigger. It's called fighter jets.
    Fighters jets are going to be the issue in the next Canadian election??? I hope you're joking.

    Canada became strong under Liberal governments and will just get stronger both sides have proven they can balance the budget just in different ways.
    Justin Trudeau would be another Barrack Obama. It was his father's economical pov that took Canada to the brink and yes, the Liberals did get Canada out of the jam that the Liberals largely created. Credit does belongs to Paul Martin and Jean Chretien but the son of Pierre is neither.

    The NDP take a cut corporate subsidies and raise corporate taxes then spend that on small businesses and pay down the debt.
    Yes, the NDP always pretend they are Conservatives before an election, just as BHO did in his first run at the Presidency. If they are Conservative why don't they run as Conservatives rather than Socialists.

    The Conservatives are cutting everything people value so there is a really high chance they will lose considering polls for the Conservatives have apparently plummeted 16% since last year.
    What do the Canadian people think of as "value?

    The social issues are also crippling the Conservatives they have shot themselves in the foot too many times.
    What "social issues? Is it a "war against women". "The rich are not paying their fair share"? Nor free condoms? Bloor Street is full of robber barons?

    I thought I should also mention that Mark Carney the guy who everyone says is one of the best economists in the world, and is praised by the Conservatives is formerly an adviser to the Liberal finance minster.
    And he obviously gave good advice and was a major influence on the strong Canadian economy right until the day he resigned his position. Too bad he went to London but I'm hoping his policies remain in place.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, but for the Libbos, personal responsibility is a thing of the past.
    Haha, so true.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Fighters jets are going to be the issue in the next Canadian election??? I hope you're joking.



    Justin Trudeau would be another Barrack Obama. It was his father's economical pov that took Canada to the brink and yes, the Liberals did get Canada out of the jam that the Liberals largely created. Credit does belongs to Paul Martin and Jean Chretien but the son of Pierre is neither.



    Yes, the NDP always pretend they are Conservatives before an election, just as BHO did in his first run at the Presidency. If they are Conservative why don't they run as Conservatives rather than Socialists.



    What do the Canadian people think of as "value?



    What "social issues? Is it a "war against women". "The rich are not paying their fair share"? Nor free condoms? Bloor Street is full of robber barons?



    And he obviously gave good advice and was a major influence on the strong Canadian economy right until the day he resigned his position. Too bad he went to London but I'm hoping his policies remain in place.
    1)Yes they are, considering the cost of them is larger than the deficit and the generals say we don't don't need that model.
    2)Justin would be a disaster, his father had the charisma and the know how, Justin did not inherit that.
    3)Well the economy went up and down it generally does over decades so it's expected.
    4)That's not a Conservative policy, raising taxes and cutting subsidies is exactly what they should be doing.
    5)Generally healthcare is the biggest issue, cut that you lose the election pretty simple. We generally value the services that government provides.
    6)First of all it's Bay Street. Second the abortion debate crippled them, I can guarantee most of the Conservatives that voted for it will lose their seats. There is also the refugee issue that ties into healthcare along with other issues I can not remember this late at night.
    7) Yes I agree, I wish the Brits would not have stolen him.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    I find it really funny when liberals like on this thread say how conservatives are in the past and need to look forward, and need to be able to relate to this generation. O please, we are losing the values,the morals, and our success, you don't mess with success these are the things that made us great. Everything seems morally acceptable.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If the Conservatives lose the next election Canadians will have decided, like the majority of American electorate, that they can spend themselves rich. I thought the American electorate were more sophisticated than what happened last November and it remains to be seen if Canadians fall for that craziness as well.
    Hopefully it is because they learned that conservatives suck at governing. They talk big about growth and prosperity when their actual record while in power is poor at best.
    It's hard to tell whether it is their policies, cronyism, paranoia or what but they just don't deliver where it counts.


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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    1)Yes they are, considering the cost of them is larger than the deficit and the generals say we don't don't need that model.
    Here's the latest and it tends to contradict what you're saying. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technol...204/story.html

    2)Justin would be a disaster, his father had the charisma and the know how, Justin did not inherit that.
    I hope Canadians get away from the "charisma" silliness and vote for competence and experience instead.
    3)Well the economy went up and down it generally does over decades so it's expected.
    The economy went up as Canada's debt went down. It is no coincidence. People need security when they are going to invest and right now Canada is providing that security. Other county's are not.
    4)That's not a Conservative policy, raising taxes and cutting subsidies is exactly what they should be doing.
    I don't believe raising taxes is the right thing to do unless we have a very clear idea where that money will be going and what alternatives there might be. Sustainability is what the government should be providing and raising taxes without a clear objective does not inspire confidence. I certainly agree about the subsides. I reckon Canadians can stand on their own and if they can't then they should find other means of production. It's a matter of pride as far as I'm concerned.
    5)Generally healthcare is the biggest issue, cut that you lose the election pretty simple. We generally value the services that government provides.
    What the people want and what the government can provide is often at odds. Like you say. any politician who threatens health care will be defeated, despite every other issue, and of course the same thing will happen now in the States. It's affordability will never be an issue. It will continue until the entire economy collapses.

    Luckily I don't see that happening any time soon but if we get a government who's elected via spending promises, and also has to cover health care costs, then the economic future of the country wil. like the US, be in jeopardy.
    6)First of all it's Bay Street. Second the abortion debate crippled them, I can guarantee most of the Conservatives that voted for it will lose their seats. There is also the refugee issue that ties into healthcare along with other issues I can not remember this late at night.
    Yes, Bay Street. I saw that later but thought it was no big deal. Not abortion again! Another damned silly issue that only sidetracks from the real issues. Actually the refugee issue has been given a recent boost, I think. I speak Spanish and was talking to a Mexican immigrant in PEI a few years ago and more Americans are being sought for high paying jobs in Alberta as well. I don't see a pressing problem with Canada's immigration policies.
    7) Yes I agree, I wish the Brits would not have stolen him.[/QUOTE]

    He'll do them well.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Hopefully it is because they learned that conservatives suck at governing. They talk big about growth and prosperity when their actual record while in power is poor at best.
    It's hard to tell whether it is their policies, cronyism, paranoia or what but they just don't deliver where it counts.

    You're confusing Republicans with Conservatives.

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