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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Actually, they have at least a third option: challenge the law -- it's the American way!
    By all means, challenge the law. That does not mean IGNORE the law.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    nobody says they cant "hold" that belief, they are still free to hold any beliefs they please
    They're being tild that they have to go against those beliefs and pay for it with their money. It's a violation of the 1st Amendment that guarantees the free practice of religion. Hell, even the army allows conciencious objection.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're being tild that they have to go against those beliefs and pay for it with their money. It's a violation of the 1st Amendment that guarantees the free practice of religion. Hell, even the army allows conciencious objection.
    hmm - interesting point.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    hmm - interesting point.

    Does a non-entity have freedom of religion?
    The people who own the coporation--i.e. the people that the money belongs to and who will be signing their name to the check--have freedom of religion.

    Let me put it another way: people are being forced, by law, to perform an act they believe violates their religious convictions.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The people who own the coporation--i.e. the people that the money belongs to and who will be signing their name to the check--have freedom of religion.

    Let me put it another way: people are being forced, by law, to perform an act they believe violates their religious convictions.
    Yes - the random moral activity police occasionally target EC . . . but they offer **** support for pregnant employees and crap wages.

    Yes indeed - they're so totally the ones to preach to me.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, you have a point. It all boils down to when one believes life starts, conception at the earliest stage, or 10 years old. Obviously a religious organization is going to side on earliest stage. So regardless of what Catholic women espouse when taking communion, and what they do once they leave the pews is irrelevant.
    No, scientists have confirmed a new human being is created at the moment the sperm and the egg join (fertilization). There is no reason to humor people that want to lie about this so they can say plan b isn't abortion.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're being tild that they have to go against those beliefs and pay for it with their money. It's a violation of the 1st Amendment that guarantees the free practice of religion. Hell, even the army allows conciencious objection.
    It's against my religious beliefs to have gone into Iraq, does that mean I don't have to pay taxes now since my tax money went to support the Iraq war?

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, scientists have confirmed a new human being is created at the moment the sperm and the egg join (fertilization). There is no reason to humor people that want to lie about this so they can say plan b isn't abortion.
    So I guess we should charge every woman that has a miscarriage with murder right?

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The people who own the coporation--i.e. the people that the money belongs to and who will be signing their name to the check--have freedom of religion.

    Let me put it another way: people are being forced, by law, to perform an act they believe violates their religious convictions.
    If companies don't like the new law they can either:

    a. fight it through changing the laws.
    b. follow the law.
    c. get the hell out of the public sector and go work for someone else.

    Either way, they're whining at this point. They need to do something about it besides whining, or shut the **** up.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, scientists have confirmed a new human being is created at the moment the sperm and the egg join (fertilization). There is no reason to humor people that want to lie about this so they can say plan b isn't abortion.
    This is a lie as there is no scientific consensus that a fertilized egg is a person. A fertilized egg can grow into a person, but a fertilized egg has no organs no brain, no capacity to feel or think, etc. At that point it is just two cells.

    I don't know what scientists you are talking about, but without consensus they are meaningless, and there is no consensus.

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