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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Aha, so you were exaggerating the facts after all. So they aren't banning Plan B, they just refuse to buy it for their employees.

    One thing I'm confused about: Did the employment contract the employees signed promise them free pregnancy killer pills, or was that the government?

    And how does this make hobby lobby like the law abiding bus company?
    I made no such exageration. Hobby Lobby is with holding coverage medication whose employees have a right to.

    You know if you put it you're way perhaps Hobby Lobby is worse for breaking the law.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    I made no such exageration. Hobby Lobby is with holding coverage medication whose employees have a right to.

    You know if you put it you're way perhaps Hobby Lobby is worse for breaking the law.
    Oh, I didn't realize in the constitution it said that all citizens have a right to pregnancy killing pills being bought for them by their employers. You've ignored my question 3 times now: How is hobby lobby, who is breaking the law for something they consider discriminatory, similar to a bus company that followed the law to the tee.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Oh, I didn't realize in the constitution it said that all citizens have a right to pregnancy killing pills being bought for them by their employers. You've ignored my question 3 times now: How is hobby lobby, who is breaking the law for something they consider discriminatory, similar to a bus company that followed the law to the tee.
    Morning after pills prevents pregnancies it does not terminate them

    How Does it Work? - Morning After Pill

    I have answered your question each time just not in the way you'd prefer.

    Hobby Lobby has inconvienced and infringed upon the rights of their employees (who are also viable parts of their company) similar to how the bus company inconvienced, but perhaps not at the time infirnged upon their patrons rights.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    I made no such exageration. Hobby Lobby is with holding coverage medication whose employees have a right to.
    No, you don't have the right to force action on others simply because you need or desire their service.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    Morning after pills prevents pregnancies it does not terminate them

    How Does it Work? - Morning After Pill

    I have answered your question each time just not in the way you'd prefer.

    Hobby Lobby has inconvienced and infringed upon the rights of their employees (who are also viable parts of their company) similar to how the bus company inconvienced, but perhaps not at the time infirnged upon their patrons rights.
    I see, so you're arguing that it is a right because it was recently signed into law? If they made a law that everyone can bang your wife would you also consider it a right?

    A right is something that applies to all citizens. This only applies to females that work for a company with more than 50 people. Tell me again how that's just like being black.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, you don't have the right to force action on others simply because you need or desire their service.
    The employees are not forcing them, what is forcing the is called the law. As determined by our congress and our supreme court this law is consitutional and needs to be followed appropriately.

    To not fulfill the law is a crime.

    And by no means is this a breach of Hobby Lobby's rights which makes no sense because the consensus of the entire company is not that of an anti-contraceptive state of mind.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    The employees are not forcing them, what is forcing the is called the law. As determined by our congress and our supreme court this law is consitutional and needs to be followed appropriately.
    So when the government does it that changes something then?

    To not fulfill the law is a crime.
    It is obvious they don't care about that.

    And by no means is this a breach of Hobby Lobby's rights which makes no sense because the consensus of the entire company is not that of an anti-contraceptive state of mind.
    Do you think its right people can just go around forcing other people to do their bidding? If you were forced to do my bidding would you consider that a violation of your rights?

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I see, so you're arguing that it is a right because it was recently signed into law? If they made a law that everyone can bang your wife would you also consider it a right?

    A right is something that applies to all citizens. This only applies to females that work for a company with more than 50 people. Tell me again how that's just like being black.
    Please don't use such a ridiculous hyperbolye such as that. At least try to keep your analogies in context to our argument.

    A right doesnt have to apply to all citizens. This a legal right not a natural right. The law determines who has what legal rights or not.

    I don't believe that this is by any means a parallel to the turning point of the civil rights movement, don't assume I believe that. It's just a similar moral principle.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So when the government does it that changes something then?
    Are you an anarchist?

    It is obvious they don't care about that.
    And because of that they have to pay over a million dollars everyday in a fine.

    Do you think its right people can just go around forcing other people to do their bidding? If you were forced to do my bidding would you consider that a violation of your rights?
    Hobby Lobby is not person it is a company. The individuals that Hobby Lobby is refusing to cover are the victims.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I agree. I think this is a larger test, a toe in the water if you will...think about it, the government is seeing how far they can go through force with an item easily affordable by the mass public. The only reason to push so hard is to set a precedent.

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