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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have 2 statements to make here:

    1) Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to impose your religious views on others. Your freedom of religion stops where my own freedom of religion begins.
    Nobody is imposing their religious view on anybody else. If the employees don't like it they can get a job someplace else. Nobody has got a right to be given a job with health insurance. The employer should not be required to violate their conscience. The employer is not "imposing" on the employee in any way by offering only that insurance which it is religiously able to provide. Good for hobby lobby!

    2) If Hobby Lobby wants to pay 1.3 million in fines per day, then by all means let them. It will help reduce our deficit a tiny bit. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, for volunteering to pay a little more.

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    Those fines are illegitimate. This is an infringement of their rights.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nobody is imposing their religious view on anybody else. If the employees don't like it they can get a job someplace else. Nobody has got a right to be given a job with health insurance. The employer should not be required to violate their conscience. The employer is not "imposing" on the employee in any way by offering only that insurance which it is religiously able to provide. Good for hobby lobby!



    Those fines are illegitimate. This is an infringement of their rights.
    It is not the company's right to break the law. No one is above the law.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    It is not the company's right to break the law. No one is above the law.
    The law is illegitimate. The company is breaking that law in the same way that Rosa Parks or Martin Luther King broke the law.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The law is illegitimate. The company is breaking that law in the same way that Rosa Parks or Martin Luther King broke the law.
    no, by breaking the law they are infringing on their employers rights. The law is legit.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no, by breaking the law they are infringing on their employers rights. The law is legit.
    So you are saying that Jim Crow laws are "legit" also. You clearly have no problem with apartheid. What a terrible, disgusting point of view you are espousing.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    So you are saying that Jim Crow laws are "legit" also. You clearly have no problem with apartheid. What a terrible, disgusting point of view you are espousing.
    nope not at all thats something you made up because you have nothing legitimate, truthful, logical or factual on your side.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The law is illegitimate. The company is breaking that law in the same way that Rosa Parks or Martin Luther King broke the law.
    The law was put into action by congress, and considered constitutional by the Supreme Court. Considered immoral by some yes, but not illegitimte.

    The Hobby Lobby in this case is more similar to the bus company that segregated its seats rather than the actual citizens that are inconvienced.

    As the supplier of the health insurance if required by law they should have to supply the morning after pill (which for the record isnt at all similar to an aborton in ethics or procedure), it is up to the individual citizen to decide if they wish to use it or not.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    So you are saying that Jim Crow laws are "legit" also. You clearly have no problem with apartheid. What a terrible, disgusting point of view you are espousing.
    You need to refrain from accusing him of being such immoral being in such a way.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    You need to refrain from accusing him of being such immoral being in such a way.
    No worries here, some people arent interested in honesty, truth, facts or tact
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    The law was put into action by congress, and considered constitutional by the Supreme Court. Considered immoral by some yes, but not illegitimte.
    No, the constitutional issue here has not yet gotten before the Supreme Court.

    The Hobby Lobby in this case is more similar to the bus company that segregated its seats rather than the actual citizens that are inconvienced.
    No, it's Rosa Parks. The employees demanding abortion pills are the bus company.

    As the supplier of the health insurance if required by law they should have to supply the morning after pill (which for the record isnt at all similar to an aborton in ethics or procedure), it is up to the individual citizen to decide if they wish to use it or not.
    I imagine you would have supported Jim Crow laws yourself. If not you are advocating a hypocritcal argument, because logically your argument entails support for apartheid or any other law infringing whatever else the government wants to infringe. So either you are advocating a disgusting viewpoint or a hypocritical viewpoint. Take your pick.

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