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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    1.)I wasn't totally clear.
    The blend is what I'm shooting for, I assumed that the majors would be covered, because that's the point of insurance.

    The minors for most people would include regular doctors visits, contraceptives, mental health, pregnancy (not complications from pregnancy), etc.
    Those I would have an optional mandates, meaning that the insurance provider has to offer them as optional services, for the insurance buyer.



    There are some things I can never use, 1 being female birth control and another being substance abuse treatment.
    I can't use female birth control and I don't drink alcohol or use drugs.
    1.)oooh my mistake maybe i misunderstood also

    i can agree with this but im not sure id agree with whats majors and minors but no biggie

    2.) i agree but this would be true for many people and many things, you could be one of the people that git instantly addicted to a pain killer? or a 100 other things.

    in the case of insurance i just think its best to be pretty inclusive, i think its safer and overall more efficient as far as make sure people are covered and they can afford it.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    1.)oooh my mistake maybe i misunderstood also

    i can agree with this but im not sure id agree with whats majors and minors but no biggie
    That's cool.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    2.) i agree but this would be true for many people and many things, you could be one of the people that git instantly addicted to a pain killer? or a 100 other things.

    in the case of insurance i just think its best to be pretty inclusive, i think its safer and overall more efficient as far as make sure people are covered and they can afford it.
    I do have an addictive personality, that's why I refuse all pain meds, except Tylenol or Ibuprofen.
    The last time I had surgery, I took none of the pain pills and just dealt with it.

    Too much inclusiveness is what jacks prices up.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Actually what most sane people want is good care at reasonable costs. Providing birth control without a co-pay is simply one way of reducing costs. Data has shown that the costs of pregnancy and childbirth far outweigh the costs of providing the preventative service of contraceptive pills. It also reduces abortions.
    A large part of the AHC is aimed at cost control and most of the preventative services are being implemented to REDUCE costs.
    Of course being one of the "status quo mongers" you have no interest in cost savings. You love our health care system just the way it is .Twice as expensive as most other western nations with no better care


    Providing no cost birth control can reduce unintended pregnancies, abortion rates in women
    The results are that we are still collectively getting worse. That our rates of what I will call "foolsih pregnancies", such as 'kids having kids', and 'out-of-wedlock' babies, keeps rising. Before any contraceptive pills, our rates for such were well less than half what they are now.

    Building a bigger nanny state, which is what this government paid-for contraception is, will only expand those at the teat.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    this makes ZERO sense?

    in one case you are choosing to ALLOW the government in your bedroom and womb and in the other case government would be FORCING thier way in your bedroom and womb.
    THis poster is an epic failure lol, whoever created it has no idea what hypocrisy means.
    You seem to have trouble discerning the difference between "demanding" and "allowing".

    Sandra Fuxalot is well-suited to be the poster child for liberal hypocrisy on this issue !

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's cool.




    I do have an addictive personality, that's why I refuse all pain meds, except Tylenol or Ibuprofen.
    The last time I had surgery, I took none of the pain pills and just dealt with it.

    Too much inclusiveness is what jacks prices up.
    I agree but i think too little can do the same for the individuals that want or need coverage

    its a thin line and in this ONE instance i think its worth it overall
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    You seem to have trouble discerning the difference between "demanding" and "allowing".

    Sandra Fuxalot is well-suited to be the poster child for liberal hypocrisy on this issue !
    no not at all because that part is meaningless to the word hypocrisy


    yes people are fighting for things to be covered but there would be no force by the government in one case and in the other there would be force


    were minorities/women DEMANDING equal rights and and protections but at the same time hypocrites against others freedoms? of course not because that logic is broken and doent fit the definition of hypocrisy.

    AGain like the other poster if you disagree by alll means shows us factual proof its hypocrisy.

    no clue who Sandra Fuxalot but she is meaningless to the debate that the poster is factually inaccurate and illogical.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Oh thats ironic Hobby Lobby



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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh thats ironic Hobby Lobby
    Employees of Hobby Lobby don't have access to birth control? Has anyway yet figured out why?

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    Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh thats ironic Hobby Lobby

    I never heard of Hobby Lobby before this thread, and I still don't know where the merchandise that they sell is made. Do you?

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I never heard of Hobby Lobby before this thread, and I still don't know where the merchandise that they sell is made. Do you?
    Yes i do. My mother owns several things from Hobby lobby. Mostly China made products.


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