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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Just because jobs are scarce does not mean the government or the employees should restrict the owners right to run their business how they want.

    What is ridiculous is mandating the coverage of birth control while other medications for illnesses like COPD, heart disease, and others are not forcibly required to be covered. It's medically unethical to place birth control at such a high tier by law when other things are not mandated that are necessary for a healthy life to treat potentially deadly diseases
    Just because you think other things are also important doesn't make birth control mandates unethical.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That's not what I'm arguing and you never addressed my point. What I am arguing is that it is medically unethical to place the desire for birth control above the need for live saving/necessary medications and to mandate the coverage of one and not the other, the act of doing this is what is unethical not the desire to reduce unwanted pregnancy.
    I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying I think your wrong.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Just because you think other things are also important doesn't make birth control mandates unethical.
    From a medical perspective, mandating the coverage of birth control while not mandating a requirement to cover life saving/necessary medications is an unethical practice and unethical priority.

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    I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying I think your wrong.
    Why am I wrong in my thinking? Why, from a medical perspective, is it not unethical to place the desire for birth control above the need for life saving/necessary medications and mandate its coverage while life saving medications are not mandated to be covered? Why is it not unethical for the government to say a business must provide plans that cover birth control while not forcing them to cover necessary medications?
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Yet, with the increase of birth control, we have a concurrent increase in the number of children born to unwed mothers (more than twice what it was 30 years ago, by percent of all childbirths), and raised in households with no father present. Which becomes the foundation for the highest concurrence of producing felons, and households being on the government teat.

    Perhaps the government, or its liberal wing anyway, has realized a different dynamic.

    I believe that your dots do not connect.
    Have you checked the stats for pregnancy out of wedlock for people who actually use birth control vs. people who don't?

    As far as I understand it, the highest rates of unwed/teen pregnancy are found in areas with that "abstinence-only" education thing going on.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Have you checked the stats for pregnancy out of wedlock for people who actually use birth control vs. people who don't?
    Post them if you believe they relevent ! The fact remains that we have declined markedly in achieving the results suggested by the poster ! I strongly suggest that any suggestion that birth control is a right, such that it should be mandated by Obamacare, and that it somehow improves the household, is far more than the one-dimensional excuse offered by the poster that I rebutted.

    Put simply, the factual results say otherwise !

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    If there was something that the government wanted to mandate that insurance cover 100% it should have been chemotherapy.
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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Post them if you believe they relevent ! The fact remains that we have declined markedly in achieving the results suggested by the poster ! I strongly suggest that any suggestion that birth control is a right, such that it should be mandated by Obamacare, and that it somehow improves the household, is far more than the one-dimensional excuse offered by the poster that I rebutted.

    Put simply, the factual results say otherwise !
    "Hasn't solved the problem completely" is not the same thing as "accomplishes nothing."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If there was something that the government wanted to mandate that insurance cover 100% it should have been chemotherapy.
    I say cover everything. (well, except cosmetic non-reconstructive surgeries. i.e. boob jobs)

    And cover everyone.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Hasn't solved the problem completely" is not the same thing as "accomplishes nothing."
    Who are you quoting ? The facts point to a worse problem than before. Put up or shut up ........ is that so difficult for you ?

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    Re: Atty: Hobby Lobby Won't Offer Morning-After Pill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I say cover everything. (well, except cosmetic non-reconstructive surgeries. i.e. boob jobs)

    And cover everyone.
    You pay for it then. Have you noticed how in Europe and Canada, where they never "covered everything", they are now cutting back much further ? Providing less care now than the average American enjoys ?

    But fear not, as liberalism and Obamacare will have us as a third-world bull$hit medical provider in no time.

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