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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Say what you will for Ron Paul, at least he is a civil libertarian and is willing to end the Presidential drone strike kill list as well as our secret court system. And he's one of the few politicians willing to do so.
    I know im just saying when people think of Ron Paul they dont think liberal, they think libertarian.


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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Then you two agree don't you?
    Ha. Good one....One of the few things Obama has done right is in keeping some of the Bush era policies.
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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Oliver Stone isn't and never has been a "typical Hollywood liberal", whatever that means. He's basically a Kucinich Democrat.
    What would the difference between that and a communist be?

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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    What would the difference between that and a communist be?
    Uh, there's a pretty massive difference, since I don't believe Kucinich favors the collectivization of the means of production.

    Fringe liberal =/= Communist, as 'Communist' has a defined historical meaning.
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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Uh, there's a pretty massive difference, since I don't believe Kucinich favors the collectivization of the means of production.

    Fringe liberal =/= Communist, as 'Communist' has a defined historical meaning.

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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Making idiotic hyperbole is all too simple. All it takes is the jerk of a knee.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh come on....This is Obama's hollywood supporter network...He's got real problems when he starts losing his base...
    Yes, his problems were clearly on display last November. 4 million vote majority and 332 electoral votes.

    People on the Far Left have always had a problem with Obama. They always will.
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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yes, his problems were clearly on display last November. 4 million vote majority and 332 electoral votes.

    People on the Far Left have always had a problem with Obama. They always will.

    Well, then we'd better say a prayer for him...History shows that assassinations are carried out predominately by this group. And as much as I dislike Obama, and his lying ways, I don't wish that on anyone.
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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Ha, yeah, I see what you mean. Well, I've been saying this for years about Obama. He's almost as bad a war criminal as Bush. Maybe Obama can turn things around in his second term now that he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected. Or maybe civil liberties are just gone for good.
    If Bush is a "war criminal" then so is every member of Congress who voted to authorize spending on these wars.

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    Re: Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Boiling the frog is not done all at once.
    In this case, you're trying to fit a frog and a toad into the same pot.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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