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Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

didn't you know, employees who expect increased wages for their labors are unreasonable

business owners who enhance their profits by decreasing the their cost of labor are capitalists


Well, this is not entirely true bubba. I think you know that CEO's and directors of the Company are beholden to the shareholders, who are everyday people, people with pensions, retirees, and other investors...When labor costs become more than a bottom line can handle and sustain in long term health of the company then the line must be drawn.
 
Well, this is not entirely true bubba. I think you know that CEO's and directors of the Company are beholden to the shareholders, who are everyday people, people with pensions, retirees, and other investors...When labor costs become more than a bottom line can handle and sustain in long term health of the company then the line must be drawn.

then tell us how much that bottom line can handle
 
then tell us how much that bottom line can handle

that's not up to me, or you. Nor is it up to the people who work for the company who have no idea of the details of any particular company.
 
that's not up to me, or you. Nor is it up to the people who work for the company who have no idea of the details of any particular company.

and that is the critical measure to determine what is equitable
you insist that the wage earners are greedy because they want more wages
while you insist the business owners are doing the right thing because they want more profits ... at the wage earners' expense
the hypocrisy is palpable
 
and that is the critical measure to determine what is equitable
you insist that the wage earners are greedy because they want more wages
while you insist the business owners are doing the right thing because they want more profits ... at the wage earners' expense
the hypocrisy is palpable

Typical mistake. It is not at the earners expense...Unless you can show a direct correlation between increase profits, and lower wages from year to year without increased productivity.
 
that's not up to me, or you. Nor is it up to the people who work for the company who have no idea of the details of any particular company.

Don't tell me this ****. If it's my labor and expertise that makes the product that makes the profit, it is somewhat up to me!

You're just being a hypocrite!
 
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Don't tell me this ****. If it's my labor and expertise that makes the product that makes the profit, it is somewhat up to me!

You're just being a hypocrite!

No, it really isn't...You don't "own" the job. Nor do you own the company. If a company agrees to pay you what you ask then they must feel that it is a good deal and you have a win/win...If they don't, then either your demands are out of line, or you're not worth what you are asking in their eyes, or they can't pay you that without harming the company's survival. In any case, their is a decision in most cases that is likely, either you'll quit and find another company to work for, or they will let you go when your demands are too much to justify.
 
No, it really isn't...You don't "own" the job. Nor do you own the company. If a company agrees to pay you what you ask then they must feel that it is a good deal and you have a win/win...If they don't, then either your demands are out of line, or you're not worth what you are asking in their eyes, or they can't pay you that without harming the company's survival. In any case, their is a decision in most cases that is likely, either you'll quit and find another company to work for, or they will let you go when your demands are too much to justify.

This is why I support collective bargaining.
 
This is why I support collective bargaining.

I support collective bargaining and unions in private business, but I also support right to work laws. No one should be forced to pay union dues or collective bargain as a condition of employment, ever. But if people willingly want to do that in a private business, that's fine. It should never be allowed for publicly funded employees though, unless the tax paying general public is invited to referendum vote on the contract proposals.
 
In any case, their is a decision in most cases that is likely, either you'll quit and find another company to work for, or they will let you go when your demands are too much to justify.

Which is pretty much the reason why government/ public sector union employees have gained the bad reputation they have, for being lazy, unproductive, and having ****ty attitudes.
 
Why's that? I don't have to support unions to have union affiliated friends....:shrug:

So, you call me a "wetback" in a PM, and now we are friends?
 
So, you call me a "wetback" in a PM, and now we are friends?


:lol: go away .... You PM'd me....most likey to do and say things you couldn't get away with in open forum....So, to answer your question, No, we are not friends. But I do have friends that are in unions. Just not anyone like you.
 
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