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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Absolutely they do. They strike as a form of coercion to get what they want. otherwise, what the hell point is there to striking??? Take teachers for example. They go on strike because they know that there is only so long that their school board can hold out until they cave and give them what they want, because they know that the children must be taught. It is coercion.
    The corporate leaders have the board room to make decisions which is forced on all the workers, that is a form of coercion, when the workers disagree they dont have the power to force any demands on the corporate boardroom, they have the power to go on strike or collective bargain, the corporate boardroom does not have to meet the demands of the workers on strike.


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    Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The corporate leaders have the board room to make decisions which is forced on all the workers, that is a form of coercion, when the workers disagree they dont have the power to force any demands on the corporate boardroom, they have the power to go on strike or collective bargain, the corporate boardroom does not have to meet the demands of the workers on strike.
    That doesn't mean that striking is not a form of coercion. Striking is ONLY a form of coercion. There is no other point to it. Does it always work? No, not in every instance with every company and union. But it is a tactic of coercion.

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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    I hope they go on a very long drawn out strike. Nothing would convince people that unions are archaic like a bunch of 6 figure workers trying to hold the east coast hostage.

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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    that was very elementary

    You're right...it was.... Frankly I am surprised that you wrote that....
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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    QUOTE=j-mac;1061300512]You're right...it was.... Frankly I am surprised that you wrote that....[/QUOTE]


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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    You should learn to use the quote functions....heh, heh....Oh, and looky, DemSocialist tried to mock me with youtube....Am I supposed to run away now? Don't be foolish man...

    You wrote something that a 2nd grader knows applies to unions...You just made a decent RICO indictment against unions...Congrats.
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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No its not. Blackmail is a crime, a crime which people use unjustified threats to make some gains or cause loss to another unless a demand is met. Blackmail is a form of coercion.
    And how does threatening to force some of the largest ports to close, holding hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions of economic activity hostage for a pay raise NOT count as coercion?

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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The corporate leaders have the board room to make decisions which is forced on all the workers, that is a form of coercion, when the workers disagree they dont have the power to force any demands on the corporate boardroom, they have the power to go on strike or collective bargain, the corporate boardroom does not have to meet the demands of the workers on strike.
    Strikes are forced upon every union worker. There is no "well I don't agree with their demands, so I'm just going to show up to work anyways." Coercion.

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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Yes, unions are coercive, so are businesses, get over it.
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    Re: Unionized dock workers threaten to strike at 15 ports

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The company signed a collective bargaining agreement, to get the benefits of it (which are many). Now you're saying that the company needs to be saved from itself and shouldn't be allowed to enter contracts with unions.

    Nanny state capitalism! That's all you conservatives offer.
    Unions should be able to enter contracts. Unions should not be able to get those contracts by blackmail or forced participation.

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