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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Would this be the same president that has presided over a 20% increase in federal spending (comparing federal spending in 2007/8 to that of 2008/9), has run $1 trillion+ deficits each year in office and plans to continue to do so? The analogy used is just, as the "compromise" offered contains no serious reductions in current spending (in fact, spending increases over the "cliff" levels), but does contain (somewhat smaller) current increases in revenue.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....with you people it is always about people "keeping more of their money". Whatever happened to the America where people actually cared about the great good of the community? Too many people like you think that everything in America is free and that there is no responsibility to pay back into a nation that allowed those wealthy to "get their money" in the first place. Freedom and America are not free. They come with responsibilities.
    Responsibilities like dropping out of HS, having children out of wedlock, with no means to support them, and demanding that the huge nanny state support them at a level that they never once attained for themselves? That kind of responsibility? Get real!
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....with you people it is always about people "keeping more of their money". Whatever happened to the America where people actually cared about the great good of the community? Too many people like you think that everything in America is free and that there is no responsibility to pay back into a nation that allowed those wealthy to "get their money" in the first place. Freedom and America are not free. They come with responsibilities.
    Keep spinning comrade. Fact is until recently successful people were looked up to. Now many, supported by you and your fellow travelers, view those who support them as evil. Most of us have had an opportunity to 'get their money'. The problem is you want to get theirs also. BTW, I'm a disabled vet having spent 17 months in a naval hospital. I paid a portion of my debt to this society.

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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Responsibilities like dropping out of HS, having children out of wedlock, with no means to support them, and demanding that the huge nanny state support them at a level that they never once attained for themselves? That kind of responsibility? Get real!
    No....I don't support that lack of responsibility either. But...the reality is that those of you who so often cry about the rich being able to keep "more of their money"....do exactly the same thing. You don't want to accept any responsibility for people paying back into a system that allowed them to accumulate their wealth.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

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    Keep spinning comrade. Fact is until recently successful people were looked up to. Now many, supported by you and your fellow travelers, view those who support them as evil. Most of us have had an opportunity to 'get their money'. The problem is you want to get theirs also. BTW, I'm a disabled vet having spent 17 months in a naval hospital. I paid a portion of my debt to this society.
    LOL.....back to that failed "Class warfare" line? The reality is....you people like to use the term when tax rates negatively affect the wealthy....but surprisingly...or maybe not....when tax rates adversely affect the middle/working classes....then....its just "paying taxes". You guys are too much.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Note the budget years used in my post, and those used in your post's "source". To say that the "baseline" for Obama federal spending is using the year containing the "one time" (crisis/emergency?) TARP and ARRA (stimulus I) spending bump is indeed a clever accounting ruse. Naturally if given a 20% emergency bonus, one may wish to allow that to be carried on forever as the new "normal" (baseline?) by never submitting a new "budget"; simply by having prince Harry Reid keep using "continuing resloutions" to keep up that inflated level of federal spending forever. The oh so frugal Obama, has indeed managed to incur annual federal deficts at 40% of total spending (at $1 trillion+) in each of those "thrifty" spending years.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Note the budget years used in my post, and those used in your post's "source". To say that the "baseline" for Obama federal spending is using the year containing the "one time" (crisis/emergency?) TARP and ARRA (stimulus I) spending bump is indeed a clever accounting ruse. Naturally if given a 20% emergency bonus, one may wish to allow that to be carried on forever as the new "normal" (baseline?) by never submitting a new "budget"; simply by having prince Harry Reid keep using "continuing resloutions" to keep up that inflated level of federal spending forever. The oh so frugal Obama, has indeed managed to incur annual federal deficts at 40% of total spending (at $1 trillion+) in each of those "thrifty" spending years.
    You have been listening to way too much right-wing propaganda. If you look at real stats, you will see that the federal government has SHRUNK under Obama in term of actual numbers.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    The bottom line is that the GOP will pay a huge political price by holding the middle class and working classes hostage....and I, for one...am happy to let them dig their own grave
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No....I don't support that lack of responsibility either. But...the reality is that those of you who so often cry about the rich being able to keep "more of their money"....do exactly the same thing. You don't want to accept any responsibility for people paying back into a system that allowed them to accumulate their wealth.
    Here is MY "compromise" deal, you stop the out of control welfare/entitlement spending nonsense and THEN ask me for more money to support that, new and improved, "responsible" federal spending.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Here is MY "compromise" deal, you stop the out of control welfare/entitlement spending nonsense and THEN ask me for more money to support that, new and improved, "responsible" federal spending.
    What "entitlements" are you talking about? Social security? Medicare?
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