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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Many reasons, but largely becasue we have just been through a recession. Not to mention employment is still low. Labor is cheap, thus less to spend. Much of what has happened for decades has hurt the worker, thus giving him less free capital, and heavy personal debt. What conservaitves call for will largely hurt business. Individuals being fiscally responsible means less spending. A good thing but costly in terms of jobs, at least in short term. The to a better world will be painful, if we get their at all. And playing partisan silliness is to be part of the problem, not the solution.

    Says one of the most partisan posters on the sight.

    It's NP though. I can see through your passive aggressive attempts at trying to preach a objective non-partisan diatribe that INCLUDES horrible advice for repairing a economy that's been ignored for the last 4 years.

    Employment and demand are low due to a general consensus among those who CONTRIBUTE into our private sector driven economy . The consensus that we have a administration who is much more interested in liberal policies like redistribution and spending.

    Corporations and individuals are sitting on trillions in Capital and choosing NOT to put it into the economy as investments and /or purchases. Companies are down sizing and increasing their production by doing more with less.

    It has nothing to do with their "greed" and everything to do with their survival under a President who in every room he walks into is the least qualified person there. A president who thinks he can spend his way out of a recession when almost everything we buy is made IN CHINA....

    Your goofy left wing assertion about workers being hurt and bla bla bla is just more generic nonsense that's actually one of the most partisan bits of silliness I've read on this forum.

    If your left wing rhetoric were even marginally true then why is Houston and parts of Texas doing so well ? Why do we have a growing economy here when we as a State we just basically implement Conservative economic principles and incentivize new businesses.

    No, Conservative ideology empowers the private sector, and thus grows our private sector based economy which also includes more jobs and less poverty.

    The liberal policies create generational dependence, poverty and misery and have locked, almost entire races into housing projects for the sole purpose of building vote farms.

    If workers are in debt then guess what ? They need to grow the hell up and act responsibly and NOT spend what they don't have.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Says one of the most partisan posters on the sight.

    It's NP though. I can see through your passive aggressive attempts at trying to preach a objective non-partisan diatribe that INCLUDES horrible advice for repairing a economy that's been ignored for the last 4 years.

    Employment and demand are low due to a general consensus among those who CONTRIBUTE into our private sector driven economy . The consensus that we have a administration who is much more interested in liberal policies like redistribution and spending.

    Corporations and individuals are sitting on trillions in Capital and choosing NOT to put it into the economy as investments and /or purchases. Companies are down sizing and increasing their production by doing more with less.

    It has nothing to do with their "greed" and everything to do with their survival under a President who in every room he walks into is the least qualified person there. A president who thinks he can spend his way out of a recession when almost everything we buy is made IN CHINA....

    Your goofy left wing assertion about workers being hurt and bla bla bla is just more generic nonsense that's actually one of the most partisan bits of silliness I've read on this forum.

    If your left wing rhetoric were even marginally true then why is Houston and parts of Texas doing so well ? Why do we have a growing economy here when we as a State we just basically implement Conservative economic principles and incentivize new businesses.

    No, Conservative ideology empowers the private sector, and thus grows our private sector based economy which also includes more jobs and less poverty.

    The liberal policies create generational dependence, poverty and misery and have locked, almost entire races into housing projects for the sole purpose of building vote farms.

    If workers are in debt then guess what ? They need to grow the hell up and act responsibly and NOT spend what they don't have.
    Too many here see disagreement as partisan. I've rarely if ever degraded "the right." I don't see conservatives as evil, or fascists, or religious nuts. I vote republican from time to time (think Grassley).

    But, no, recent history shows polices favor business, corporations, and the wealthy or working folks. This may well empower the wealthy to gain more wealth, the business to have cheaper labor, but I'm not convinced that is empowering.

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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, nothing the president does is in anyway like a business.
    This is so foolishly wrong, and explains much of why you think Obama has been a success.

    No state product or widget, no profit motive, nothing that mirrors a business.
    The product is the United States. Just as a Governor must constantly search out businesses across the world that would like to locate in their state in order to increase employment in that state, so must a President look at treaty's and agreements between countries to improve employment in this country. Another aspect is policy, and understanding how business works, and what policies damage confidence, or hurt the well being of business altogether.

    tried to make this clear to you during the election. Even economic policies are very different than running an actual business.
    You're splitting hairs, and coming at me in a pompous manner is not going to get your point across. You need to understand that the things that Obama and his cabal of mobster wanna be's are strangling confidence, and holding business in this country back.

    An no Pol Pot was not an educational leader. You need to read that again. Being educated is not being an educational leader. You're misreading again.
    I am misreading? I don't think so....I said "educated" NOT ''educational'' Changing that word from what I said is changing its meaning, so YOU are the one misreading here....This explains much about you.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is so foolishly wrong, and explains much of why you think Obama has been a success.



    The product is the United States. Just as a Governor must constantly search out businesses across the world that would like to locate in their state in order to increase employment in that state, so must a President look at treaty's and agreements between countries to improve employment in this country. Another aspect is policy, and understanding how business works, and what policies damage confidence, or hurt the well being of business altogether.



    You're splitting hairs, and coming at me in a pompous manner is not going to get your point across. You need to understand that the things that Obama and his cabal of mobster wanna be's are strangling confidence, and holding business in this country back.



    I am misreading? I don't think so....I said "educated" NOT ''educational'' Changing that word from what I said is changing its meaning, so YOU are the one misreading here....This explains much about you.
    You're way too sensitive j. You cannot really tell my attitude from the quick posts we share here. But, the president does not run a business. He has no product to produce. No board of directors concerned with profit margin. No market to set prices for any widgets. This seems like a clear point requiring that you address them and not your feelings of being insulted.

    Secondly, attracting business is also not running a business. Again, a very different thing. And yes, if you provide labor cheap enough, allow for a lack of regulation, favor business over the worker enough, you will attract business. However, the president has to as concerned about workers and the poor as he is business. He yet aso consider public safety. He is not running a business.

    As for Pol Pot, it was such a silly comment on your part I'm not really inclined to mess with it too much. If you really want to understand, I suggest you start from the beginning a re-read.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, it would have been so astute to collect those dollars and then put them in a federal mattress, never to be used until it was time to pay the social security benefits of the employee who contributed those dollars
    very business like; just as the reich wingers would insist government should be
    because businesses keep their working capital in a lock box and never consider placing the funds where they could accrue earnings
    [/s] for those who needed it
    Yeah, but they didn't and those who depended on the government, and voted for more of it, are going to be screwed. What happens then?

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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Cheap political game. The only thing Republicans have proven themselves good at in the past 4 years is scoring cheap political points only appreciated by their gerrymandered "safe" districts.

    The writing is on the wall...either help govern or the Republican party is facing some long term problems.
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    Coupled with the House's rejection in March, 414-0, that means Mr. Obama's budget has failed to win a single vote in support this year.

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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're way too sensitive j. You cannot really tell my attitude from the quick posts we share here. But, the president does not run a business. He has no product to produce. No board of directors concerned with profit margin. No market to set prices for any widgets. This seems like a clear point requiring that you address them and not your feelings of being insulted.

    Secondly, attracting business is also not running a business. Again, a very different thing. And yes, if you provide labor cheap enough, allow for a lack of regulation, favor business over the worker enough, you will attract business. However, the president has to as concerned about workers and the poor as he is business. He yet aso consider public safety. He is not running a business.

    As for Pol Pot, it was such a silly comment on your part I'm not really inclined to mess with it too much. If you really want to understand, I suggest you start from the beginning a re-read.

    This is a typical liberal response here, ignoring the points made and appealing to emotion, while avoiding a true discussion. If you feel that this is the way you prevail in furthering your views, then you are sadly mistaken. But, since I must go out and buy some groceries before your Presidents incompetence leads to $7 per gallon milk prices, I really have no time right now for your Allenski style silliness. Get a new bag dude, you need it badly....bye bye now.
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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You assume much. And apparently get much wrong. Not only did Bush not achieve your standard, but no reasonable person would have expected out of McCain or Romney. You sound more partisan than me.
    Bush? I never mentioned George Bush! Please respond to the quote if you are going to respond at all. I'm interested in the current Presidency and the financial and social future of the United States, not George Bush. What's the matter with you?

    Isn't it about time you started looking toward the future and the consequences of the actions, or lack of action, taken today?

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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Easily. Romney agree with him on many things. Take health care for example. Romney wanted to everything but the method to pay for it. This is irresponsible. On foreign policy, Romney all but endorsed Obama. Romney lacked any conviction and wanted to be president too badly. Most of side are hyperbolic and inaccurate in your criticism of Obama. While he has hardly been perfect, the cartoonish image your side tries to paint goes too far, leaving real and justified criticism for stupid. It is that simple.
    You really didn't follow the election campaign much, did you?

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    Re: Harry Reid: "We're going over the cliff"

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Republicans are so cretinous they have lost and don't know it. Taxes on the rich are going up. There's no way these shills can stop it.

    If we go over the cliff, the next day the Senate proposes a tax cut for working families and dares the tea party House to shoot down a tax cut. The GOP is so nihilistic they probably will, and that will mean in the next election, armageddon for the tea party
    And that will be good for the future of the United States? How do you see America's future?

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