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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    New York newspaper to list more gun permit holders after uproar....



    NEW YORK (Reuters) - A suburban New York newspaper that sparked an uproar among gun enthusiasts by publishing names and addresses of residents holding pistol permits is now planning to publish even more identities of permit-toting locals.

    Further names and addresses will be added as they become available to a map originally published on December 24 in the White Plains, New York-based Journal News, the newspaper said.

    The original map listed thousands of pistol permit holders in suburban Westchester and Rockland counties just north of New York City.

    Along with an article entitled "The gun owner next door: What you don't know about the weapons in your neighborhood," the map was compiled in response to the December 14 shooting deaths of 26 children and adults in Newtown, Connecticut, editors of the Gannett Corp.-owned newspaper said.

    The next batch of names will be permit holders in suburban Putnam County, New York, where the county clerk told the newspaper it is still compiling information.

    Republican state Senator Greg Ball of Patterson, New York, said he planned to introduce legislation to keep permit information private except to prosecutors and police.

    A similar bill that he introduced earlier as an Assemblyman failed in the state Assembly.

    "The asinine editors at the Journal News have once again gone out of their way to place a virtual scarlet letter on law abiding firearm owners throughout the region," Ball wrote on his Senate web site.

    But media critic Al Tompkins of the Florida-based Poynter Institute wrote online this week that the newspaper's reporting had not gone far enough to justify the permit holders' loss of privacy.

    "If journalists could show flaws in the gun permitting system, that would be newsworthy," he said. "Or, for example, if gun owners were exempted from permits because of political connections, then journalists could better justify the privacy invasion.".....snip~

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    Seems the Journal is not done and they will put out more names.

    Reprehensible....Can you imagine the outrage if a paper wanted to publish the names and addresses of say Gay people, or better yet voter roles and how a person voted?
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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Reprehensible....Can you imagine the outrage if a paper wanted to publish the names and addresses of say Gay people, or better yet voter roles and how a person voted?
    I agree with the Tomkins guy.....how do they justify this invasion of privacy?

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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

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    I agree with the Tomkins guy.....how do they justify this invasion of privacy?

    Not speaking for them, but this paper is Gannett owned, and known for some time to have a radical anti 2nd Amendment agenda. They don't think that anyone in America that isn't law enforcement, or military should own any gun. And they use their paper to push that. I'd love to see them get sued if someone gets hurt as a direct result of their name and address being published by this group of jack asses.
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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not speaking for them, but this paper is Gannett owned, and known for some time to have a radical anti 2nd Amendment agenda. They don't think that anyone in America that isn't law enforcement, or military should own any gun. And they use their paper to push that. I'd love to see them get sued if someone gets hurt as a direct result of their name and address being published by this group of jack asses.

    Yeah, I did say earlier in the thread that they should keep stats on crime in those neighborhoods. Especially over Burglaries and Home Invasions. Knowing there is no gun in the House. Even juvenile kids now will be hip to knowing if they need worry about someone in the house with a Gun.

    Guess the paper wasn't concerned they became National News over it either.

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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The proper response is to research the addresses, phone numbers and places of employment of all children and relatives of all of the newspaper's staff, plus that of all staff members - along with as many photographs of each of them personally and of the front of their houses - plus estimated income of each - as can be obtained - and of all delivery employees on a similar blog and interactive map for anyone who wants to look them up.

    That way if anyone has a story to report, they have the maximum available information to do so with.
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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Maybe where you live, not any of the places I live. Oklahoma, you have to have reasonable fear of your life. Texas, deadly force is allowed for the protection of property. It is rare for a home owner in either location that shoots someone to actually be investigated, much less arrested and tried. Haven't heard of any lawsuits from it either.

    The cops like it also, less work and less paper work and no hassles from the perps. Saves the county and cities money also.
    You've made tererun a very unhappy person, probably jumping up and down in the basement, throwing computer equipment and spewing saliva all over the walls.
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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Of course, they will claim First Amendment rights while trying to destroy the Second Amendment..

    As a libertarian I view the Bill of Rights and US Constitution as a all-or-nothing scenario. One either believes in all amendments or believes in none. Sadly progressives generally pick and choose.
    I happen to believe in them all, but I don't get your logic on believing in all or none. People can fail to see the virtues in one and not the others.

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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Letusreason View Post
    I happen to believe in them all, but I don't get your logic on believing in all or none. People can fail to see the virtues in one and not the others.

    There is a process for changing the constitution, and that is through the amendment process. If you don't see the virtue in a right that is now protected to us by the constitution the only remedy you have is spelled out, get 2/3 of the states to ratify a change, or amendment. Short of that you are not acting within the document set up to run this country.
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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is a process for changing the constitution, and that is through the amendment process. If you don't see the virtue in a right that is now protected to us by the constitution the only remedy you have is spelled out, get 2/3 of the states to ratify a change, or amendment. Short of that you are not acting within the document set up to run this country.
    Not seeing the virtue of a right does not necessitate that anything be done about it. This does not answer the question about the logic of accepting all or none.

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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Letusreason View Post
    I happen to believe in them all, but I don't get your logic on believing in all or none. People can fail to see the virtues in one and not the others.
    That's the problem - IMO, that is not possible because I don't believe the Bill of Rights or Constitution is a "living document."

    The Bill of Rights was never meant to be amended.. The Bill of Rights are exactly as they are defined - The Bill of Rights.

    One cannot amend liberties... That would be like founding a relationship with an individual via a gift then several years later telling that individual to give that gift back...

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