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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    some people don't understand the terms they use

    breaking into an UNOCCUPIED HOME TO STEAL is called either burglary or Breaking and entering

    breaking into an OCCUPIED HOME TO STEAL is called ROBBERY

    how anyone can defend what that idiot paper did is beyond belief

    the fact is some posters are upset others have made personal safety an individual responsibility so they complain and whine about armed citizens

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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    interestingly enough you are far more likely to shoot a friend or family member with your gun than to do one of these things. Oh, and then you get the lovely problem of having to justify your killing to the police and potential lawsuits that come with killing or shooting someone.

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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Wait, you mean they went up to a home with an armed man and took his condenser coils? But i thought you were tough guy with a gun? Why did you not shoot them? probably because they did it when you were gone or without you knowing because that is the way most robberies work. Oh, and it is not that hard to do such things if you know what you are doing.
    No, they did it while I was out of town for six months.

    And no, none of my guns were at that location at the time. I take them with me when I move between houses.
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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    interestingly enough you are far more likely to shoot a friend or family member with your gun than to do one of these things. Oh, and then you get the lovely problem of having to justify your killing to the police and potential lawsuits that come with killing or shooting someone.
    Maybe where you live, not any of the places I live. Oklahoma, you have to have reasonable fear of your life. Texas, deadly force is allowed for the protection of property. It is rare for a home owner in either location that shoots someone to actually be investigated, much less arrested and tried. Haven't heard of any lawsuits from it either.

    The cops like it also, less work and less paper work and no hassles from the perps. Saves the county and cities money also.
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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    interestingly enough you are far more likely to shoot a friend or family member with your gun than to do one of these things. Oh, and then you get the lovely problem of having to justify your killing to the police and potential lawsuits that come with killing or shooting someone.
    I have owned at least one gun for the last 38+ years; friends shot = 0, family members shot = 0, doing one of these things = 1. I would much rather be judged by twelve than be carried by six. When seconds really matter the police are only minutes away. More people wearing shoes with no gun are shot than those wearing shoes and carrying guns. Statistics are only as good as their source.
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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I have owned at least one gun for the last 38+ years; friends shot = 0, family members shot = 0, doing one of these things = 1. I would much rather be judged by twelve than be carried by six. When seconds really matter the police are only minutes away. More people wearing shoes with no gun are shot than those wearing shoes and carrying guns. Statistics are only as good as their source.
    You know, for some strange reason a burglar trying to break into my apartment years ago changed his mind about it after he saw me awake and armed. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so.

    Lets see, 0 Friends or relatives shot. Since I was in Oklahoma at the time, just them illegally entering is justification for shooting them. At that time you had to wait until the were inside, but now, just trying to get in is enough, but if you really are worried about it, drag them inside anyway.
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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Wow, you contradicted yourself in less than a paragraph. Really, you just said guns make me safer because they scare criminals, but now i am marked as a target for those criminals so i am less safe. It is just amazing how such contradictory logic is continually presented as reasonable thought.
    I get it, you hate guns. This thread's was developed to question if it was ok for the local paper to release the map of gun permit holders. I am saying no. It singled out a group and makes them a target, or maybe it doesn't. This group of people did nothing wrong. I am against what the paper did.
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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    If they don't know what is on the other end it will only escalate their preparation. That means that they have a gun with them. Then all of a sudden you have a shootout in your home with your valuables and possibly your family. Good plan. you took a robber who would have taken some stuff and went away and turned it into a shootout.
    If criminals start getting shot in the process of going about their "business" more often you will eventually only be left with the hardened criminals who will be easier and easier to identify and lock away with stricter sentencing. Most robberies and burglaries are conducted by a small portion of the criminal population. Anything that deters them from action is a good thing.

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    Re: Newspaper sparks outrage for publishing names, addresses of gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    interestingly enough you are far more likely to shoot a friend or family member with your gun than to do one of these things. Oh, and then you get the lovely problem of having to justify your killing to the police and potential lawsuits that come with killing or shooting someone.
    You do realize that you are trying to use statistics to prove a negative right?

    If no property damage and no shots are fired, it probably doesn't end up in the police file and even then it won't always show up in statistics.

    After the 1995 Federal building bombing, barricades were put around those buildings. No new bombings have occurred, but can you statistically prove that the barricades prevented further bombings? No.

    If a criminal doesn't act against a gun owner and instead acts against a gunless victim, can statistics prove that the person owning the gun stopped him/herself from being a victim? No, they cannot. Proving prevention is very difficult. If the crime is stopped before anything happens, there is no way to prove what stopped it or if it was stopped.

    My only personal proof is that at least once, I know very well that my being armed did indeed prevent a crime from happening. Since it was never reported to the police, there can be no statistic on it. I also had one individual pull a knife, show it to me(he actually licked the blade) and try to force me to the side of the road, that was until he saw that I had a gun, then he took the next exit and I never saw him again. So that is actually twice in my lifetime that possessing a gun has possibly, one absolutely confirmed, prevented a crime from happening.
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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Thank you for the info. on whose is armed and who is not. My associates and I are currentrly in the planning stages of busting in to the homes displayed as having no means of defending themselves. This is as easy pcikens as it gets. Because of this publication I will not only get rich but I will live a long life in which to spend my loot. Would it be asking too much for a list of Americans that own porno and are not armed? There is a big market for that stuff ya know? God Bless America.
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