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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh sure you are....Muddying up the waters is indeed a defense...And what the hell does the aggregate wealth of the counties have to do with anything? More slur against the wealthy as if they don't have any right to safety? Your arguments are laughable and predictable. The bottom line is that the 2nd amendment is clear, and upheld through Heller by the SCOTUS. So you have a real problem if you believe that the attempt to infringe on that right is going to be successful.
    Muddying the waters vs sticking one's head in the sand to avoid reasoning?

    Rather than attempting to play the 'wealthy are victims' card- try a bit of reason. These two counties are among the wealthiest in the nation. Very tempting to criminals for quite some time. Approx 170 burglaries during the 26 days since the map was published and there was a grand total of-

    a grand total of 2 burglaries that match the map!

    Now if you want a real discussion on muddy water- YOU attempt to muddy the debate by making a totally untrue claim I don't want homeowners to have the right to home defense.

    SHOW US ALL WHERE I SAID THAT!

    You see the whine over the map being used to target hand gun owners is as false as a hooker's smile so you retreat back to 'infringing' the 2ndA which was not ANY part of this discussion. It was all about the baseless whine by a NY state politician claiming 2 out of 170 burglaries are 'map based' when the facts, as little as anyone knows right now, fails to support his rant.

    So rather than discuss the map as a burglary tool initial debate, you attempt to open a new debate by claiming I want to deny home defense with handguns, or even ownership of a handgun period. You drag Heller into this as if i think that ruling was wrong. You throw a cherry ontop with a baseless attempt to drag a 'class warfare' charge into this.

    Muddy waters indeed...

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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Muddying the waters vs sticking one's head in the sand to avoid reasoning?

    Rather than attempting to play the 'wealthy are victims' card- try a bit of reason. These two counties are among the wealthiest in the nation. Very tempting to criminals for quite some time. Approx 170 burglaries during the 26 days since the map was published and there was a grand total of-

    a grand total of 2 burglaries that match the map!

    Now if you want a real discussion on muddy water- YOU attempt to muddy the debate by making a totally untrue claim I don't want homeowners to have the right to home defense.

    SHOW US ALL WHERE I SAID THAT!

    You see the whine over the map being used to target hand gun owners is as false as a hooker's smile so you retreat back to 'infringing' the 2ndA which was not ANY part of this discussion. It was all about the baseless whine by a NY state politician claiming 2 out of 170 burglaries are 'map based' when the facts, as little as anyone knows right now, fails to support his rant.

    So rather than discuss the map as a burglary tool initial debate, you attempt to open a new debate by claiming I want to deny home defense with handguns, or even ownership of a handgun period. You drag Heller into this as if i think that ruling was wrong. You throw a cherry ontop with a baseless attempt to drag a 'class warfare' charge into this.

    Muddy waters indeed...

    Oh please....I understand that the only card that progressives have is to lie about what others say, and use emotional appeal (a fallacy BTW) to further their agenda which they try to keep hidden, largely because in the light of day would never be approved of by the majority of rational people in this country, but get a grip will ya?
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    Re: Newspaper helps ensure safety of registered gun owners

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh please....I understand that the only card that progressives have is to lie about what others say, and use emotional appeal (a fallacy BTW) to further their agenda which they try to keep hidden, largely because in the light of day would never be approved of by the majority of rational people in this country, but get a grip will ya?
    I see, so when you have absolutely NO facts to back your rant up with you claim you can see into the soul of a man you never met?

    You seem to be the only one using an emotional appeal- rather than debate the map as a burglary tool issue you ramp up the- class warfare, wrapping yourself up in the Constitution, you always lie- I never do muck.

    So for the record you have NO, I say again, ZERO proof of any of the crap you accuse me of. You refuse to discuss the initial post of the map was used to commit burglary. And I have a hidden agenda?

    I'm not the one needing to get a grip!

    I am a wounded veteran. I am a multiple firearms owner. Member of the NRA. Since the age of 16 I have hunted 2 and 4 footed critters every year, sometimes I was hunted back. I support the 2nd A. I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. I have no hidden agenda, I have stated my opinion on restrictions vs infringement repeatedly...

    but none of that has dick to do with the wild and baseless claim 2 out of 170 burglaries are because a map of handgun owners was published.

    Just more Muddy Waters without the guitar riff....

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