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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    You need to start letting the ones who aren't responsible suffer. You admit responsibility is on the decline. Covering their irresponsibility is not the way to turn things around.
    We ALL suffer. That's the point that keeps going right over your head. We ALL pay.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    You mean in what way is the government spending less to cover up the mistakes of people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Already covered that..
    Prevention =/= covering up. Prevention = taking the bull by the horns and dealing with it. Prevention has virtually wiped out smallpox, diptheria, polio, etc. etc. etc. Those things were not wiped out through education telling us to stay away from infected people. Remember 'typhoid Mary'???
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I care less about whether they're perfect and more about whether you expect me to pay for their choices and actions.
    Damn dude!!! You will pay MORE for the unwanted pregnancies and abortions than you ever will for condoms! Good LORD, this is frustrating.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    You need to start letting the ones who aren't responsible suffer. You admit responsibility is on the decline. Covering their irresponsibility is not the way to turn things around.
    They don't suffer. They just get more money.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    You want parents to raise their children based on your morals. If a child isn't pregnant, then why are concerned with how the individual chooses to avoid pregnancy and how the parent raises them?
    It's not simply the idea of following my morals. How many times do I have to say "I shouldn't have to pay for your stupid decisions"?
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I care less about whether they're perfect and more about whether you expect me to pay for their choices and actions.
    You will pay MORE for them to have an abortion or a baby than for condoms. Please tell me what you don't understand about this statement. If a condom program worked, it would save us money and save babies from being aborted too.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Well that can't be done. And if he spent one day in the trenches of America he would understand why.
    Excuse me, but I wasn't raised with a golden diaper. My mother had me two months after finishing high school, she was kicked out of the house by my grandfather, and I spent part of my childhood in the ghetto of Baltimore.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    It's not simply the idea of following my morals. How many times do I have to say "I shouldn't have to pay for your stupid decisions"?
    So basically, you would rather your tax dollars go for welfare for teen moms and abortions than condoms? You are not making any sense.

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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    And 'feeling the pain' is spread amongst every tax paying American. That is the part you don't get.
    That's where we disagree strongly. Life is about accepting the rewards and consequences for your actions.
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    Re: Condoms for free at 22 city schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So basically, you would rather your tax dollars go for welfare for teen moms and abortions than condoms? You are not making any sense.
    I'd rather set up a system where the teen parents who can't support their unplanned birth can drop out of school for the time being and work a minimum wage job to pay for the needs of that child. Those who make stupid choices should be the ones to suffer.
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